i need an opinion..or 20 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

m1k3midg3 · 09-23-2010, 06:55 PM

so my friend and I are thinking about going lobstering at la jolla in a 12 foot aluminum boat and staying the night out there and going home in the morning. We are both 17. what do you all think? is this a good idea? my mom thinks that this is unsafe and are gonna drown out there so this is an attempt to change that. thanks

Gino · 09-23-2010, 07:00 PM

depends how big the beer cooler is.

Nic D · 09-23-2010, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gino

depends how big the beer cooler is.

Hypoxic1 · 09-23-2010, 07:05 PM

Trouble is, when you die they wont give you a front pager. It will be a small blurb on the inside page of the san diego section, right next to the drunk who got tazed for stealing a baked chicken.
Is that how you want mom to remember you?

m1k3midg3 · 09-23-2010, 08:52 PM

heh thanks or the help guys

tunaseeker · 09-23-2010, 08:56 PM

Go with an experienced bugger before you go on your own....

deepdvr · 09-23-2010, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypoxic1

right next to the drunk who got tazed for stealing a baked chicken.

Chris, I knew that was you!!!!

Seriously Mike, find someone to buddy boat with for your first outing. Also, do you guys own a VHF? I'm sure the answer is no so go get one that floats.

m1k3midg3 · 09-23-2010, 09:57 PM

i dont know anyone with boat that goes lobstering. anyone on here wanna buddy kayak?? and yea im thinking that we are gonna get a vhf

Gino · 09-23-2010, 10:03 PM

Dont let the salts pee in your chereos.

The reaons i said "depends on how big the cooler is" Is becuase alchohol is probebely the number 1 first mistake when out on the water.

When i was 17 (a whole 6 years ago) Beer was a cornorstone of every activity... Moosehead and Old Milwakee were the start and end of the day! So leave the beer at home...

Im sure you and your friend will be fine if it wa sonly 2-3 hours... But i strongly suggest you hoop somewhere were help can get to you quick if you have a situation. But Id more Strongly suggest you go out with soemone whos knows what they are doing first. Dont go out overnight. Thats bad news bears...

Jzo · 09-24-2010, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tunaseeker

Go with an experienced bugger before you go on your own....

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepdvr

Seriously Mike, find someone to buddy boat with for your first outing. Also, do you guys own a VHF? I'm sure the answer is no so go get one that floats.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gino

Im sure you and your friend will be fine if it wa sonly 2-3 hours... But i strongly suggest you hoop somewhere were help can get to you quick if you have a situation. But Id more Strongly suggest you go out with soemone whos knows what they are doing first. Dont go out overnight. Thats bad news bears...

x2

Also, a rain coat and something to keep yourself warm at all times.

FARRIER · 09-24-2010, 06:54 AM

Go for it! Don't let people what if the situation to death. Do bring a vhf and two pfds. It's pretty hard to drown if you can swim.

m1k3midg3 · 09-25-2010, 08:26 AM

alright so i need a vhf and already have the pfd's just need someone experienced to go out with. also what do u do about the surf landing at night? are the waves ussually smaller at night?

driftwood · 09-25-2010, 09:40 AM

Not trying to scare anyone. Just becareful you don't get too close to the surf zone. Ultimately, this is how these guys died. too close the surf zone while lobstering boat flipped...

Dead lobsterman found offshore; 2nd man missing

By Michele Clock
STAFF WRITER
December 11, 2006
Authorities recovered the body of a lobsterman in the waters off Coronado yesterday and continued to search for another man hours after their boat washed ashore empty.
The dead lobsterman was identified as Matthew Rogers, said U.S. Coast Guard Lt. Rick Hipes. His age and hometown were not known.
Authorities still hoped to find the other man alive, Hipes said, adding that the Coast Guard planned to search all night in the Pacific Ocean off Point Loma. The Coronado lifeguards and San Diego Harbor Police have also been involved in the search, which used small boats and aircraft, Hipes said.
The cause of Rogers' death was not known. An autopsy will be scheduled today, the Medical Examiner's Office said.
Rogers' 12-to 14-foot aluminum skiff drifted onto the beach just northwest of the Hotel del Coronado yesterday, hours after the two men set out.
They were last seen about 9 p.m. Saturday by a fisherman in the waters off Point Loma, where they had planned to set lobster pots.
Coronado lifeguards said the stormy conditions Saturday night, with waves 4 to 6 feet high, were hazardous for small water craft.
The search started yesterday morning after Rogers' father reported to authorities that the men had not returned. Typically, they returned from lobstering trips by about midnight, Hipes said.

RedSledTeam · 09-25-2010, 10:41 AM

LISTEN TO YOUR MOM. SHE KNOWS YOU THE BEST!

deepdvr · 09-25-2010, 11:00 AM

Mike, be on the safe side and take your little boat out of SD bay at shelter island. Nightime surf landings can be dicey. The surf doesn't change due to day vs. night. If the surf is very small you could launch out of the shores and try the area just outside of the reserve by LJ cove.

Based on long term surf forecasts, opening night could be nasty with a big swell.

Last season I lost 3 nets because I didn't use good judgment. There was a very large ground swell and I had no business hooping that night. As the tide shifted just after we started to drop nets, the surf jacked way up. In a few cases, waves were cresting outside of me.

Needless to say I left those nets that were now in the surf zone and got myself back on land

Have ample lighting on your boat so you can be seen and stay out of the main channel. Once you get out to zuniga jetty there are plenty of places to drop nets on both sides of the channel.

FishFeeder · 09-25-2010, 12:07 PM

it is not enough to 'bring' pfds,
ya gotta WEAR em, all the time. at night, if something goes wrong you won't even know it before you hit the water, and then you will not find that pfd unless it is wrapped around you and tied on right.

09-23-2010, 06:55 PM	#1
m1k3midg3 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 108	i need an opinion..or 20 so my friend and I are thinking about going lobstering at la jolla in a 12 foot aluminum boat and staying the night out there and going home in the morning. We are both 17. what do you all think? is this a good idea? my mom thinks that this is unsafe and are gonna drown out there so this is an attempt to change that. thanks

09-23-2010, 07:05 PM	#4
Hypoxic1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oceanside Posts: 215	Fastest way to become a news piece! Trouble is, when you die they wont give you a front pager. It will be a small blurb on the inside page of the san diego section, right next to the drunk who got tazed for stealing a baked chicken. Is that how you want mom to remember you?

09-24-2010, 06:54 AM	#11
FARRIER Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cmont [] Posts: 314	Go for it! Don't let people what if the situation to death. Do bring a vhf and two pfds. It's pretty hard to drown if you can swim. __________________ "It depends on what the meaning of the words 'is' is." –Bill Clinton

09-25-2010, 09:40 AM	#13
driftwood Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 1,086	Not trying to scare anyone. Just becareful you don't get too close to the surf zone. Ultimately, this is how these guys died. too close the surf zone while lobstering boat flipped... Dead lobsterman found offshore; 2nd man missing By Michele Clock STAFF WRITER December 11, 2006 Authorities recovered the body of a lobsterman in the waters off Coronado yesterday and continued to search for another man hours after their boat washed ashore empty. The dead lobsterman was identified as Matthew Rogers, said U.S. Coast Guard Lt. Rick Hipes. His age and hometown were not known. Authorities still hoped to find the other man alive, Hipes said, adding that the Coast Guard planned to search all night in the Pacific Ocean off Point Loma. The Coronado lifeguards and San Diego Harbor Police have also been involved in the search, which used small boats and aircraft, Hipes said. The cause of Rogers' death was not known. An autopsy will be scheduled today, the Medical Examiner's Office said. Rogers' 12-to 14-foot aluminum skiff drifted onto the beach just northwest of the Hotel del Coronado yesterday, hours after the two men set out. They were last seen about 9 p.m. Saturday by a fisherman in the waters off Point Loma, where they had planned to set lobster pots. Coronado lifeguards said the stormy conditions Saturday night, with waves 4 to 6 feet high, were hazardous for small water craft. The search started yesterday morning after Rogers' father reported to authorities that the men had not returned. Typically, they returned from lobstering trips by about midnight, Hipes said. Last edited by driftwood; 09-25-2010 at 08:19 PM.

09-25-2010, 10:41 AM	#14
RedSledTeam Daddeo Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: OC Posts: 660	MOM LISTEN TO YOUR MOM. SHE KNOWS YOU THE BEST!

09-23-2010, 07:00 PM	#2
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 520	depends how big the beer cooler is.

09-23-2010, 08:52 PM	#5
m1k3midg3 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 108	heh thanks or the help guys

09-23-2010, 08:56 PM	#6
tunaseeker TB Metal Art Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 653	Go with an experienced bugger before you go on your own....

09-23-2010, 09:57 PM	#8
m1k3midg3 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 108	i dont know anyone with boat that goes lobstering. anyone on here wanna buddy kayak?? and yea im thinking that we are gonna get a vhf

09-23-2010, 10:03 PM	#9
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 520	Dont let the salts pee in your chereos. The reaons i said "depends on how big the cooler is" Is becuase alchohol is probebely the number 1 first mistake when out on the water. When i was 17 (a whole 6 years ago) Beer was a cornorstone of every activity... Moosehead and Old Milwakee were the start and end of the day! So leave the beer at home... Im sure you and your friend will be fine if it wa sonly 2-3 hours... But i strongly suggest you hoop somewhere were help can get to you quick if you have a situation. But Id more Strongly suggest you go out with soemone whos knows what they are doing first. Dont go out overnight. Thats bad news bears...

09-25-2010, 08:26 AM	#12
m1k3midg3 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 108	alright so i need a vhf and already have the pfd's just need someone experienced to go out with. also what do u do about the surf landing at night? are the waves ussually smaller at night?

09-25-2010, 11:00 AM	#15
deepdvr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Carlsbad Posts: 591	Mike, be on the safe side and take your little boat out of SD bay at shelter island. Nightime surf landings can be dicey. The surf doesn't change due to day vs. night. If the surf is very small you could launch out of the shores and try the area just outside of the reserve by LJ cove. Based on long term surf forecasts, opening night could be nasty with a big swell. Last season I lost 3 nets because I didn't use good judgment. There was a very large ground swell and I had no business hooping that night. As the tide shifted just after we started to drop nets, the surf jacked way up. In a few cases, waves were cresting outside of me. Needless to say I left those nets that were now in the surf zone and got myself back on land Have ample lighting on your boat so you can be seen and stay out of the main channel. Once you get out to zuniga jetty there are plenty of places to drop nets on both sides of the channel.

09-25-2010, 12:07 PM	#16
FishFeeder Junior Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 17	clarification it is not enough to 'bring' pfds, ya gotta WEAR em, all the time. at night, if something goes wrong you won't even know it before you hit the water, and then you will not find that pfd unless it is wrapped around you and tied on right.