Next They'll Ban Apple Pie - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

dsafety · 06-03-2011, 05:01 PM

Wonderful video Tony! I have not been to the CP on a weekend in a long time. I was very surprised by how many humans, even some children were enjoying the place. This is great.

Two thoughts. I am not quite sure how the SOS folks stretch the facts so that the CP can be called a Seal Habitat. These critters are squatters who moved in about 25 years ago. Their histoical habitat is a place a little ways up the beach coincidentally called Seal Rock.

The other thought has to do with the disturbing the peace comment. I wonder if those folks have a permit to do what they are doing. In San Diego you need a permit to do just about everything. Screaming through a bull horn at peaceful citizens going about their business for hours on end certainly passes my test for disturbing the peace.

Bob

tony · 06-03-2011, 07:37 PM

Bob, there's a little known fact that we had to get via the Freedom of Information Act...and that is Sea World dropped off 126 rehabilitated seals from other areas into the vicinity and 61 of those directly into the CP during the mid 90's. I remember during the 80's there were only about a dozen or so seals out on Seal Rock and during the 90's the population exploded. The seal activists like to think it was some miracle of nature or that they came back to their ancient birthing grounds....

The seal activists refuse to get permits for anything including their donation table as they hide behind 1st amendment rights and the city attorney/cops wont do anything about them yet....

They are a non-profit group so their tax returns are online. In 2008 they made 400,000 from donations most of which went into their pockets and the rest used to sue the city. Unfortunately there are a lot of liberal politicians who wont go after their creepy asses....

tony · 06-03-2011, 08:50 PM

Oh, and here's some incentive for you guys to show up tomorrow....Starting mid-day we will have free shark,halibut and WSB tacos for those on the beach...I'll be there a little later around 3:00...hope to see you guys down there

Handymansd · 06-04-2011, 07:19 AM

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...ireworks-stay/

bluesquids · 06-04-2011, 08:36 AM

This is the same group that keeps stopping the city from cleaning out drainage ditches that have filled with sediment and weeds claiming it is valuable habitat. That last flood in Mission valley was the worst ever...a disaster.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...it-legal-wall/

flydigital · 06-04-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tony

Bob, there's a little known fact that we had to get via the Freedom of Information Act...and that is Sea World dropped off 126 rehabilitated seals from other areas into the vicinity and 61 of those directly into the CP during the mid 90's. I remember during the 80's there were only about a dozen or so seals out on Seal Rock and during the 90's the population exploded. The seal activists like to think it was some miracle of nature or that they came back to their ancient birthing grounds....

The seal activists refuse to get permits for anything including their donation table as they hide behind 1st amendment rights and the city attorney/cops wont do anything about them yet....

They are a non-profit group so their tax returns are online. In 2008 they made 400,000 from donations most of which went into their pockets and the rest used to sue the city. Unfortunately there are a lot of liberal politicians who wont go after their creepy asses....

Just wait a few more years until all those pup GWS along the coast grow up and realize they have a free buffet at the CP. Nature always has a way of balancing things out. Of course, the environuts will be blaming us for the decline of the seals and taking credit for the "great success" of the GWS. On the plus side, it might get much less crowded out there

dsafety · 06-04-2011, 07:52 PM

I just had another thought. Yes, I know this can be a dangerous thing but hear me out. Tony mentioned that the cops will not do anything to shut down the SOS wackos at the CP. If the law enforcement folks will not do the right thing then maybe it is time for some citizens to step up.

I do not know much about how the citizen's arrest process works but maybe this is an avenue to take. When one of these people starts shouting over a bull horn for hours they are certainly disturbing the peace for the many people who are in the neighborhood hoping to enjoy a quiet day at one of the most beautiful beaches on the planet. Maybe someone should put this "lady" under citizen's arrest and see how that plays out.

Hopefully someone reading this thread knows enough about the law to comment on this potential strategy. If it is the right way to go, I would love to part of the posse.

Bob

tony · 06-04-2011, 09:14 PM

A couple of years ago one of our guys did a citizens arrest after one of the seal-wack-jobs pulled a 16 year old girl down by her hair and threw sand in the father's face because they walked onto the beach.. The wacko went to jail and was banned from the CP. The cops have confiscated the bullhorn before but they wont go too much further because they are afraid of the activist 1st amendment rights crap and the city wont move on it partially because a lot of them are liberal pro-activists themselves and most of the population has NO IDEA of the crazy shit that is going on here while they just get along with their lives...Some of these pro-seal people are average citizens yet some are full blown criminal scum bags that know how to work the system

06-04-2011, 07:19 AM	#4
Handymansd Ancient Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: On The Water Posts: 935	http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...ireworks-stay/ __________________ All men are equal before fish. -Herbert Hoover

06-04-2011, 08:36 AM	#5
bluesquids Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jamul, CA Posts: 243	This is the same group that keeps stopping the city from cleaning out drainage ditches that have filled with sediment and weeds claiming it is valuable habitat. That last flood in Mission valley was the worst ever...a disaster. http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...it-legal-wall/ __________________ Thanks, bluesquids

06-03-2011, 05:01 PM	#1
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,123	Wonderful video Tony! I have not been to the CP on a weekend in a long time. I was very surprised by how many humans, even some children were enjoying the place. This is great. Two thoughts. I am not quite sure how the SOS folks stretch the facts so that the CP can be called a Seal Habitat. These critters are squatters who moved in about 25 years ago. Their histoical habitat is a place a little ways up the beach coincidentally called Seal Rock. The other thought has to do with the disturbing the peace comment. I wonder if those folks have a permit to do what they are doing. In San Diego you need a permit to do just about everything. Screaming through a bull horn at peaceful citizens going about their business for hours on end certainly passes my test for disturbing the peace. Bob

06-03-2011, 07:37 PM	#2
tony Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: La Jolla Posts: 130	Bob, there's a little known fact that we had to get via the Freedom of Information Act...and that is Sea World dropped off 126 rehabilitated seals from other areas into the vicinity and 61 of those directly into the CP during the mid 90's. I remember during the 80's there were only about a dozen or so seals out on Seal Rock and during the 90's the population exploded. The seal activists like to think it was some miracle of nature or that they came back to their ancient birthing grounds.... The seal activists refuse to get permits for anything including their donation table as they hide behind 1st amendment rights and the city attorney/cops wont do anything about them yet.... They are a non-profit group so their tax returns are online. In 2008 they made 400,000 from donations most of which went into their pockets and the rest used to sue the city. Unfortunately there are a lot of liberal politicians who wont go after their creepy asses....

06-03-2011, 08:50 PM	#3
tony Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: La Jolla Posts: 130	Oh, and here's some incentive for you guys to show up tomorrow....Starting mid-day we will have free shark,halibut and WSB tacos for those on the beach...I'll be there a little later around 3:00...hope to see you guys down there

06-04-2011, 07:52 PM	#7
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,123	I just had another thought. Yes, I know this can be a dangerous thing but hear me out. Tony mentioned that the cops will not do anything to shut down the SOS wackos at the CP. If the law enforcement folks will not do the right thing then maybe it is time for some citizens to step up. I do not know much about how the citizen's arrest process works but maybe this is an avenue to take. When one of these people starts shouting over a bull horn for hours they are certainly disturbing the peace for the many people who are in the neighborhood hoping to enjoy a quiet day at one of the most beautiful beaches on the planet. Maybe someone should put this "lady" under citizen's arrest and see how that plays out. Hopefully someone reading this thread knows enough about the law to comment on this potential strategy. If it is the right way to go, I would love to part of the posse. Bob

06-04-2011, 09:14 PM	#8
tony Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: La Jolla Posts: 130	A couple of years ago one of our guys did a citizens arrest after one of the seal-wack-jobs pulled a 16 year old girl down by her hair and threw sand in the father's face because they walked onto the beach.. The wacko went to jail and was banned from the CP. The cops have confiscated the bullhorn before but they wont go too much further because they are afraid of the activist 1st amendment rights crap and the city wont move on it partially because a lot of them are liberal pro-activists themselves and most of the population has NO IDEA of the crazy shit that is going on here while they just get along with their lives...Some of these pro-seal people are average citizens yet some are full blown criminal scum bags that know how to work the system