What are the Dec 16th MLPA results? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Iceman · 12-18-2010, 08:35 AM

Quote:

If anyone has a link that discusses the new northern *proposed* boundary
of SLJ closure, please post.

Palomar is the proposed northern boundary of South La Jolla

Aaron&Julie · 12-18-2010, 05:29 PM

Thanks you two.
So it sounds like shenanigans were pulled.
Now, it sounds like, we wait to see as to what is, or isn't approved for closure.

blackcloud9 · 12-19-2010, 10:31 AM

Thanks Andy, my buddy put the boundary lat long coordinates into his
GPS wrong, and almost gave me a heart attack!!

Personally I think they have an uphill battle for this to actually be
implemented ....

But if it passes, I'm on the boundary. Probably the best spot for lobstering
in a couple of years!

Aaron · 12-19-2010, 11:39 AM

As it stands...

or you can go to this link so that you can zoom in...
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/scmpas121510.pdf

...and not to be a dick but, comments stating that you'll be lobstering the edge of the reserve because that's where the action will be in a few years translates directly to, "MLPA's work" to the enviro's and can be used as fuel to feed this ridiculous fire. We've met a few times in the past (it's Larry right?) and really nothing personal, just my 2 cents...so take it for what its worth!

lbsurf2ca · 12-19-2010, 11:56 AM

Still trying to understand what the difference between the reserve and conservation (blue and red).

Ohana · 12-19-2010, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbsurf2ca

Still trying to understand what the difference between the reserve and conservation (blue and red).

My understanding is the reserves or SMR's mean nothing can be touched or taken whereas the SMCA/No-Take mean that certain groups can touch and take, but no recreational/commercial fishing of any kind is allowed.

What is really tricky is the SMCA's. They can allow recreational fishing, but you need to read the regulations. I put in a separate post how the Newport Back Bay used to say fishing is allowed with hook and line, but apparently the language may change to where this allowed only from shore. Why this distinction is being added is confusing because they are not restricting boats from going into the back bay.

Kevin

PAL · 12-19-2010, 02:28 PM

^No, that's not quite right.

Unfortunately, each one of those blue areas can have different rules.

Some are virtually the same as reserves, allowing only things such as sewage outlet maintenance and sampling.

Others, like the one over Scripps Pier, allow some fishing. Crucially for us, we can fish bait there. That didn't happen by accident. We battled for it.

Aaron&Julie · 12-20-2010, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron

As it stands...
or you can go to this link so that you can zoom in...
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/scmpas121510.pdf

I'd really like to zoom in, but the link doesn't seem to be working. Do you have another one? Anyone? Thanks .

blackcloud9 · 12-20-2010, 01:02 PM

This works
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/scmpas121510.pdf
only if you cut and paste into your browser.

SGV Rookie · 12-20-2010, 01:25 PM

Can we look into a combined effort with local organizations and do a BWE Reef ball and synthetic kelp construction project? If reserves are left reserves they become unbalanced. Only so many fishies and crustaceans can live in one area. Lets give the ocean more creature housing and increase our catches!

12-18-2010, 05:29 PM	#2
Aaron&Julie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Spring Valley Posts: 1,400	Thanks you two. So it sounds like shenanigans were pulled. Now, it sounds like, we wait to see as to what is, or isn't approved for closure. __________________ "Never say die"

12-20-2010, 01:25 PM	#10
SGV Rookie Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Gabriel Valley Posts: 89	Reef balls and synthetic kelp Can we look into a combined effort with local organizations and do a BWE Reef ball and synthetic kelp construction project? If reserves are left reserves they become unbalanced. Only so many fishies and crustaceans can live in one area. Lets give the ocean more creature housing and increase our catches!

12-19-2010, 10:31 AM	#3
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	Thanks Andy, my buddy put the boundary lat long coordinates into his GPS wrong, and almost gave me a heart attack!! Personally I think they have an uphill battle for this to actually be implemented .... But if it passes, I'm on the boundary. Probably the best spot for lobstering in a couple of years!

12-19-2010, 11:39 AM	#4
Aaron Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 175	As it stands... or you can go to this link so that you can zoom in... http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/scmpas121510.pdf ...and not to be a dick but, comments stating that you'll be lobstering the edge of the reserve because that's where the action will be in a few years translates directly to, "MLPA's work" to the enviro's and can be used as fuel to feed this ridiculous fire. We've met a few times in the past (it's Larry right?) and really nothing personal, just my 2 cents...so take it for what its worth!

12-19-2010, 11:56 AM	#5
lbsurf2ca Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Encinitas Posts: 395	Still trying to understand what the difference between the reserve and conservation (blue and red).

12-19-2010, 02:28 PM	#7
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	^No, that's not quite right. Unfortunately, each one of those blue areas can have different rules. Some are virtually the same as reserves, allowing only things such as sewage outlet maintenance and sampling. Others, like the one over Scripps Pier, allow some fishing. Crucially for us, we can fish bait there. That didn't happen by accident. We battled for it.

12-20-2010, 01:02 PM	#9
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	This works http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/scmpas121510.pdf only if you cut and paste into your browser.