What are the Dec 16th MLPA results? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

blackcloud9 · 12-18-2010, 07:56 AM

We know that the north and south boundaries of the South La Jolla were
moved at the last minute, to include greater area, apparently the
northern boundary at "pink wall" was moved to a street north of
WindanSea. Ouch.

I live right here on Palomar Ave above Big Rock, and the *proposed*
increased SLJ closure now encompasses 100% of my fishing beach, and,
90% of my kayak fishing spots. I say *proposed* because there is the
funding/enforcement issue, and, court battles to come.

The process: I went to some of the meetings, however I am one who
believes that more fishermen participation at the MLPA meetings would
not have changed much. They didn't really care.

If anyone has a link that discusses the new northern *proposed* boundary
of SLJ closure, please post.

Iceman · 12-18-2010, 08:35 AM

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If anyone has a link that discusses the new northern *proposed* boundary
of SLJ closure, please post.

Palomar is the proposed northern boundary of South La Jolla

Aaron&Julie · 12-18-2010, 05:29 PM

Thanks you two.
So it sounds like shenanigans were pulled.
Now, it sounds like, we wait to see as to what is, or isn't approved for closure.

blackcloud9 · 12-19-2010, 10:31 AM

Thanks Andy, my buddy put the boundary lat long coordinates into his
GPS wrong, and almost gave me a heart attack!!

Personally I think they have an uphill battle for this to actually be
implemented ....

But if it passes, I'm on the boundary. Probably the best spot for lobstering
in a couple of years!

Aaron · 12-19-2010, 11:39 AM

As it stands...

or you can go to this link so that you can zoom in...
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/scmpas121510.pdf

...and not to be a dick but, comments stating that you'll be lobstering the edge of the reserve because that's where the action will be in a few years translates directly to, "MLPA's work" to the enviro's and can be used as fuel to feed this ridiculous fire. We've met a few times in the past (it's Larry right?) and really nothing personal, just my 2 cents...so take it for what its worth!

lbsurf2ca · 12-19-2010, 11:56 AM

Still trying to understand what the difference between the reserve and conservation (blue and red).

Ohana · 12-19-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lbsurf2ca

Still trying to understand what the difference between the reserve and conservation (blue and red).

My understanding is the reserves or SMR's mean nothing can be touched or taken whereas the SMCA/No-Take mean that certain groups can touch and take, but no recreational/commercial fishing of any kind is allowed.

What is really tricky is the SMCA's. They can allow recreational fishing, but you need to read the regulations. I put in a separate post how the Newport Back Bay used to say fishing is allowed with hook and line, but apparently the language may change to where this allowed only from shore. Why this distinction is being added is confusing because they are not restricting boats from going into the back bay.

Kevin

Aaron&Julie · 12-20-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron

As it stands...
or you can go to this link so that you can zoom in...
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/scmpas121510.pdf

I'd really like to zoom in, but the link doesn't seem to be working. Do you have another one? Anyone? Thanks .

blackcloud9 · 12-20-2010, 01:02 PM

This works
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/scmpas121510.pdf
only if you cut and paste into your browser.

12-18-2010, 07:56 AM	#1
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	We know that the north and south boundaries of the South La Jolla were moved at the last minute, to include greater area, apparently the northern boundary at "pink wall" was moved to a street north of WindanSea. Ouch. I live right here on Palomar Ave above Big Rock, and the proposed increased SLJ closure now encompasses 100% of my fishing beach, and, 90% of my kayak fishing spots. I say proposed because there is the funding/enforcement issue, and, court battles to come. The process: I went to some of the meetings, however I am one who believes that more fishermen participation at the MLPA meetings would not have changed much. They didn't really care. If anyone has a link that discusses the new northern proposed boundary of SLJ closure, please post. __________________ Larry. Hobie Revolution 13. 25 years of kayak fishing La Jolla. https://larryl.com/photos

12-18-2010, 05:29 PM	#3
Aaron&Julie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Spring Valley Posts: 1,400	Thanks you two. So it sounds like shenanigans were pulled. Now, it sounds like, we wait to see as to what is, or isn't approved for closure. __________________ "Never say die"

12-19-2010, 10:31 AM	#4
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	Thanks Andy, my buddy put the boundary lat long coordinates into his GPS wrong, and almost gave me a heart attack!! Personally I think they have an uphill battle for this to actually be implemented .... But if it passes, I'm on the boundary. Probably the best spot for lobstering in a couple of years!

12-19-2010, 11:39 AM	#5
Aaron Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 175	As it stands... or you can go to this link so that you can zoom in... http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/scmpas121510.pdf ...and not to be a dick but, comments stating that you'll be lobstering the edge of the reserve because that's where the action will be in a few years translates directly to, "MLPA's work" to the enviro's and can be used as fuel to feed this ridiculous fire. We've met a few times in the past (it's Larry right?) and really nothing personal, just my 2 cents...so take it for what its worth!

12-19-2010, 11:56 AM	#6
lbsurf2ca Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Encinitas Posts: 395	Still trying to understand what the difference between the reserve and conservation (blue and red).

12-20-2010, 01:02 PM	#9
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	This works http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/scmpas121510.pdf only if you cut and paste into your browser.