hobie outback owners - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

ericko · 05-30-2010, 06:37 PM

I also was in your same shoes what to get I tested both and felt that the outback was just the better choice for me, i dont see myself fishing LJ that much cause of my location HB. I've taken my outback out to Dana, New Port,and some lakes and love it .I also have an X-FACTOR and anything is faster than that .the stability in my x-factor and outback is the one thing i like most about both of my yaks,the revo was not as stable when i tested it.....

dont no if this helps but good luck

Three3Divine · 05-30-2010, 09:48 PM

Revo all the way, faster, easier threw surf, Not as much hull slap and yeah revo all the way bud! if you going to fish la jolla but if your looking for a lot of weight capacity then maybe the outback is your choice and if you want hoop net then the outback but my choice is the Revo!

Hobie-Pedaller · 05-30-2010, 09:57 PM

Three3Divine summed it up well.

Outback is VERY stable & dry. But is a tank PADDLING thru surf launches/landings.

roadx · 05-31-2010, 08:26 AM

thanks for the opinions, it is appreciated. is the outback that bad launching/landing through the surf?

with all the revo lovers, it's not making this easier LOL

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It really becomes a speed/tracking vs. stability/storage debate

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dont no if this helps but good luck

yes it does and thanks!

Hobie-Pedaller · 05-31-2010, 04:08 PM

no real problem LAUNCHING. it is slow & bulky, but just point the nose straight into the waves and forge ahead.

Not much problem with flipping over here for me.

but for me, LANDING is always an adventure, in anything bigger than 2.5 - 3 ft waves.

to land in surf (dry & safe & upright), you need to time the waves, and follow one in right behind it, and then paddle hard & fast, to stay ahead of next wave coming up your rear.

this is near impossible for me in my Outback. i pedal 99% of the time I'm on the water, and thus I am a terrible paddler anyways. but my deficiency really shows up in the surf zone.

When surf landing, I seldom outrun the trailing wave, and I almost always get "caught" by the trailing wave, when I'm about half way in. If the waves are over 2-3 ft, I usually end up riding the wave in sideways, leaning HARD into wave to prevent flipping, all the way to the beach.

I haven't flipped since 2004, the first year I started yakking. But I frequently come close, on many landings. Definitely gets the adrenaline going for me everytime the waves are 3 ft plus.

I love everything about my Outback, except using it in surf landings.

If you are physically strong in upper body & a good paddler (which I am not), you will likely be fine in the surf landings. Otherwise, if you fish A LOT in ocean (surf launch/land) the Revo is possibly the better option.

Billy V · 05-31-2010, 07:21 PM

Revolution all the way.

- Larger front hatch with easy access.
- Faster than the outback, tracks better, paddles much better, Not affected by wind like the outback.
- Easier to deal with a big fish hook-up. You can hang your legs over the sides for extra stability, comfort, additional drag, and directional control.
- Much easier surf launch and landings.
- Easier to lift and load overhead on truck racks. It has perfect balance from the grab handles - just snatch it up from the ground and it will balance directly overhead with ease. (the Adventure is the same way, but not the outback.)
- A Revo with the $22 Sailing Rudder will turn on a dime.
- Turbo Finns are a must have on either kayak - it makes all of them more efficient.

Don't be fooled into thinking the outback has a large margin of stability, or buoyancy over the Revolution, or that it is a dryer boat.
-When the wind is up the outback gets affected much more. It feels like a top, and is more difficult to hold a course.
The Revo slices through.

The fact is that ALL Hobies are very stable.
Remember.... when those finns are in the downward position you effectively have a deep keel in the water like a sailboat, the rudder also adds stability....and if you add the huge sailing rudder its overkill.
Its difficult to flip over a Revo, I have tried a few times.

Take a close look before you buy -

I fished Mission Bay Yesterday, and Today on the Revo. I must have covered 15 miles of coastline effortlessly.
--I also want to know why OEX was not BBQing Burgers Saturday.

dsafety · 05-31-2010, 07:35 PM

As usual, Billy V kind of sums things up about as well as anyone can. I have a Revo and am a very happy camper. Have I dumped on landings... Yep. But I think my friends with Outbacks have dumped more often.

From my prospective, it all comes down to where you plan to use the kayak. If you plan to fish in the ocean and will have surf launches and landings, my recommendation is Revo, without hesitation.

If you plan to fish the bay, harbor, lakes or rivers, the Outback may be a better choice. It is as simple as that.

Bob

05-30-2010, 09:48 PM	#2
Three3Divine Junior Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 29	>> Revo all the way, faster, easier threw surf, Not as much hull slap and yeah revo all the way bud! if you going to fish la jolla but if your looking for a lot of weight capacity then maybe the outback is your choice and if you want hoop net then the outback but my choice is the Revo!

05-30-2010, 09:57 PM	#3
Hobie-Pedaller Fish On !!! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 194	Three3Divine summed it up well. Outback is VERY stable & dry. But is a tank PADDLING thru surf launches/landings. __________________ Hobie Kayaks: Use Your Legs to Pedal.... Use Your Arms to Fish !! Kayak Fishing is a DRUG.... and I'm addicted !!

05-31-2010, 04:08 PM	#5
Hobie-Pedaller Fish On !!! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 194	no real problem LAUNCHING. it is slow & bulky, but just point the nose straight into the waves and forge ahead. Not much problem with flipping over here for me. but for me, LANDING is always an adventure, in anything bigger than 2.5 - 3 ft waves. to land in surf (dry & safe & upright), you need to time the waves, and follow one in right behind it, and then paddle hard & fast, to stay ahead of next wave coming up your rear. this is near impossible for me in my Outback. i pedal 99% of the time I'm on the water, and thus I am a terrible paddler anyways. but my deficiency really shows up in the surf zone. When surf landing, I seldom outrun the trailing wave, and I almost always get "caught" by the trailing wave, when I'm about half way in. If the waves are over 2-3 ft, I usually end up riding the wave in sideways, leaning HARD into wave to prevent flipping, all the way to the beach. I haven't flipped since 2004, the first year I started yakking. But I frequently come close, on many landings. Definitely gets the adrenaline going for me everytime the waves are 3 ft plus. I love everything about my Outback, except using it in surf landings. If you are physically strong in upper body & a good paddler (which I am not), you will likely be fine in the surf landings. Otherwise, if you fish A LOT in ocean (surf launch/land) the Revo is possibly the better option. __________________ Hobie Kayaks: Use Your Legs to Pedal.... Use Your Arms to Fish !! Kayak Fishing is a DRUG.... and I'm addicted !! Last edited by Hobie-Pedaller; 05-31-2010 at 04:26 PM.

05-31-2010, 07:21 PM	#6
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	Revolution all the way. - Larger front hatch with easy access. - Faster than the outback, tracks better, paddles much better, Not affected by wind like the outback. - Easier to deal with a big fish hook-up. You can hang your legs over the sides for extra stability, comfort, additional drag, and directional control. - Much easier surf launch and landings. - Easier to lift and load overhead on truck racks. It has perfect balance from the grab handles - just snatch it up from the ground and it will balance directly overhead with ease. (the Adventure is the same way, but not the outback.) - A Revo with the $22 Sailing Rudder will turn on a dime. - Turbo Finns are a must have on either kayak - it makes all of them more efficient. Don't be fooled into thinking the outback has a large margin of stability, or buoyancy over the Revolution, or that it is a dryer boat. -When the wind is up the outback gets affected much more. It feels like a top, and is more difficult to hold a course. The Revo slices through. The fact is that ALL Hobies are very stable. Remember.... when those finns are in the downward position you effectively have a deep keel in the water like a sailboat, the rudder also adds stability....and if you add the huge sailing rudder its overkill. Its difficult to flip over a Revo, I have tried a few times. Take a close look before you buy - I fished Mission Bay Yesterday, and Today on the Revo. I must have covered 15 miles of coastline effortlessly. --I also want to know why OEX was not BBQing Burgers Saturday. Last edited by Billy V; 05-31-2010 at 09:35 PM.

05-30-2010, 06:37 PM	#1
ericko Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Huntington beach Posts: 594	I also was in your same shoes what to get I tested both and felt that the outback was just the better choice for me, i dont see myself fishing LJ that much cause of my location HB. I've taken my outback out to Dana, New Port,and some lakes and love it .I also have an X-FACTOR and anything is faster than that .the stability in my x-factor and outback is the one thing i like most about both of my yaks,the revo was not as stable when i tested it..... dont no if this helps but good luck

05-31-2010, 07:35 PM	#7
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,123	As usual, Billy V kind of sums things up about as well as anyone can. I have a Revo and am a very happy camper. Have I dumped on landings... Yep. But I think my friends with Outbacks have dumped more often. From my prospective, it all comes down to where you plan to use the kayak. If you plan to fish in the ocean and will have surf launches and landings, my recommendation is Revo, without hesitation. If you plan to fish the bay, harbor, lakes or rivers, the Outback may be a better choice. It is as simple as that. Bob