So What Happens Next?

[driftwood]

Fish and Game comission is expected to make its final determination next summer or fall or as soon as next month. So yes, you can fish La Jolla for now.

[mwm]

http://www.fgc.ca.gov/public/information/bios.asp

Link to Fish and Game Commissioner Bios

[dsafety]

Does anyone know how to reach the guy who said he was head of the Game Warden's Association at yesterday's meeting? He said that his members would not be enforcing any of the new MLPA regs due to lack of resources and danger to the officer's who might be asked to provide this enforcement.

He might be an interesting guy to talk to, especially if he is on our side.

Just a thought.

Bob

[PAL]

Does anyone know how to reach the guy who said he was head of the Game Warden's Association at yesterday's meeting? He said that his members would not be enforcing any of the new MLPA regs due to lack of resources and danger to the officer's who might be asked to provide this enforcement.

He might be an interesting guy to talk to, especially if he is on our side.

LOL. That guy also represents the Partnership for Sustainable Oceans, of which the KFACA is a part. He's a lobbyist, and I am sure the Fish and Game Commission will be seeing a lot of him. Enough said.

[dsafety]

So Paul,

Are you saying that that guy lied about being part of the DFG Warden's Association? If that is the case, I think that you need to get a new lobbiest. There has already been to much lying, half truths and back room deals during this process. I do not support the concept of "the end justifies the means" if we check truthfullness at the door. We should be better than that.

Did I misunderstand you?

Bob

[PAL]

Are you saying that that guy lied about being part of the DFG Warden's Association? If that is the case, I think that you need to get a new lobbiest. There has already been to much lying, half truths and back room deals during this process. I do not support the concept of "the end justifies the means" if we check truthfullness at the door. We should be better than that.

Did I misunderstand you?

You most definitely did. Osborn is not the head of the Warden's Association, he represents them as their lobbyist. They employ him. So does the PSO. Like I said, the Commission will see a lot of George.

[Willy]

While leaving the water last night after hoopin', I was checked by 2 DFG.
After proving my legitimacy, I asked them how they feel about the MLPA process.
They smirked and laughed.
Then said there is no way in hell they can come close to enforcing the changes.
The guy put it in a good perspective: they can't provide the manpower to enforce what is in place now, with no or few closure areas.
They're checking for regulation violations on game.

Now imagine twenty plus little marked off regions, miles apart from each other, and trying to enforce those on top of the regs already in place, with the same amount of people.
It's impossible.
So I bluntly asked "you're saying you won't enforce the MPA's?"
The response was "we'll see."
My $.02
Willy

[DryFly]

Originally Posted by PAL

You most definitely did. Osborn is not the head of the Warden's Association, he represents them as their lobbyist. They employ him. So does the PSO. Like I said, the Commission will see a lot of George.

And George Osborn is perhaps the most loved lobbyist by the F&G Commission (sic). The sad reality is that the Commission has repeatedly caught him lying and he has zero credibility with most of them. The only one who seems to listen to him is Dan Richards who coincidently hails from the same district as George's former employer, Senator Dutton. IMO this guy has caused more damage to the fishing MLPA effort than any person around.