The newest maps are up - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

PAL · 11-01-2009, 02:04 PM

Bad, bad, bad.

There are 4 options in San Diego. Only one of them is any good. That's Prop 2.

If that's not enough, there are 3 at Malibu's Dume, including one that amounts to a death penalty.

For PV the options are P2 or another map that takes out the bottom section of Rocky Pt.

Get those BRTF letters in!

bender0240 · 11-01-2009, 03:35 PM

Looks like we're the last option.

dsafety · 11-01-2009, 04:57 PM

OK guys, I written the emails sent money to the fund and told everyone I know how important this thing is. What else can be done to influence the outcome?

While I admit more than a bit of confusion about all of this, it appears to me that option 4 of the newest maps would be the best for La Jolla with option 3 being almost livable. Options 1 and 2 will probably cause me to sell my kayak since everywhere I currently fish will be off limits.

Notice to the DFG, if I sell my kayak, I will no longer need to buy a fishing license.

This if very frustrating to me. I can only imagine how hard it must be on the heavy lifters who have fought this thing tirelessly for that past couple of years. I cannot express in words how much I respect you guys and how grateful for all your efforts.

Bob

Billy V · 11-01-2009, 05:06 PM

What exactly can you do in the Blue areas ?
What is the exact language as per the mlpa ?
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So Work Group 2 Map proposal is Now Called Option 4 ?

WTF -- Is this designed to add confusion to all the letters they are receiving from State Senators, Assemblymen, etc. ?

tylerdurden · 11-01-2009, 05:33 PM

BRTF option 4 is what is best for fishermen in San Diego. It is the San Diego array from WG2.

Options 1-3 all expand the current LJ reserve, and add the Scripps SMCA that really screws us kayakers over. A proposed allowed use on the spreadsheet included in the link is to allow bait catching by H&L only in the Scripps SMCA. This is a step in the right direction to allow bait by H&L but this is still obviously unacceptable.

The difference between options 1 and 2 in is the boudary of the south LJ reserve. Option 2 is moved slightly to the south.

BRTF option 3 is best for Point Dume, with 2 being worse, and 1 being not acceptable.
In PV option 2 is OK, option 1 is unaccpetable.
I don't know enough about Laguna to comment on that one. Someone?
BRTF option 4 is best in San Diego.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

tylerdurden · 11-01-2009, 05:39 PM

To fight this...
Get as many people possible to email the BRTF in support of the good options.

Lobby the local council members and county supervisors to support the good options.

Thank the government officials who have supported us.

dsafety · 11-01-2009, 06:05 PM

Billy V's comment raises a good question. In my email to the MLPA folks I specifically said that I support option 2. Option 2 is now option 4. Should we all resend our emails?

Bob

11-01-2009, 05:33 PM	#5
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	BRTF option 4 is what is best for fishermen in San Diego. It is the San Diego array from WG2. Options 1-3 all expand the current LJ reserve, and add the Scripps SMCA that really screws us kayakers over. A proposed allowed use on the spreadsheet included in the link is to allow bait catching by H&L only in the Scripps SMCA. This is a step in the right direction to allow bait by H&L but this is still obviously unacceptable. The difference between options 1 and 2 in is the boudary of the south LJ reserve. Option 2 is moved slightly to the south. BRTF option 3 is best for Point Dume, with 2 being worse, and 1 being not acceptable. In PV option 2 is OK, option 1 is unaccpetable. I don't know enough about Laguna to comment on that one. Someone? BRTF option 4 is best in San Diego. Correct me if I'm wrong. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

11-01-2009, 05:39 PM	#6
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	To fight this... Get as many people possible to email the BRTF in support of the good options. Lobby the local council members and county supervisors to support the good options. Thank the government officials who have supported us. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

11-01-2009, 02:04 PM	#1
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	Bad, bad, bad. There are 4 options in San Diego. Only one of them is any good. That's Prop 2. If that's not enough, there are 3 at Malibu's Dume, including one that amounts to a death penalty. For PV the options are P2 or another map that takes out the bottom section of Rocky Pt. Get those BRTF letters in!

11-01-2009, 03:35 PM	#2
bender0240 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 118	Looks like we're the last option.

11-01-2009, 04:57 PM	#3
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,121	OK guys, I written the emails sent money to the fund and told everyone I know how important this thing is. What else can be done to influence the outcome? While I admit more than a bit of confusion about all of this, it appears to me that option 4 of the newest maps would be the best for La Jolla with option 3 being almost livable. Options 1 and 2 will probably cause me to sell my kayak since everywhere I currently fish will be off limits. Notice to the DFG, if I sell my kayak, I will no longer need to buy a fishing license. This if very frustrating to me. I can only imagine how hard it must be on the heavy lifters who have fought this thing tirelessly for that past couple of years. I cannot express in words how much I respect you guys and how grateful for all your efforts. Bob

11-01-2009, 05:06 PM	#4
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	What exactly can you do in the Blue areas ? What is the exact language as per the mlpa ? ------------------ So Work Group 2 Map proposal is Now Called Option 4 ? WTF -- Is this designed to add confusion to all the letters they are receiving from State Senators, Assemblymen, etc. ?

11-01-2009, 06:05 PM	#7
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,121	Billy V's comment raises a good question. In my email to the MLPA folks I specifically said that I support option 2. Option 2 is now option 4. Should we all resend our emails? Bob