Surfrider MLPA meetings starting Tue 9/23 7PM S.C. - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

tylerdurden · 09-25-2009, 10:15 AM

My take, surf rider isn't for us and aren't against us. They kind of straddle some knife edge trying to cater to both sides but fail.

I really wish in their public comment they would come and say something about keeping a specific area open for fishing because of access isues. In private they have been supportive of our access issues as kayakers though. As of yet they have not explicitly stated this in public comment for a specific area that I know of, and it keeps me from supporting them. They support the process in general which is troubling.

When I talked to one of them, they seemed to be interested in taking as much of LJ as possible and knowing exactly where the line was that would piss us off.

Dan · 09-25-2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tylerdurden

When I talked to one of them, they seemed to be interested in taking as much of LJ as possible and knowing exactly where the line was that would piss us off.

Isn't that better than them not knowing?? I took them to the edge of the land and showed them that exact spot.

Meagan from Coast Keeper and I met to discuss this exact line and really spent alot of time going over the area and what their stance was and where our pain centers were....

Then, in the next round of maps, the Coast Keeper (Kate Hanley-RSG) MPA retreated to that exact spot....is that a coincidence?

Don't blow your chance to educate and contribute to the Surfrider forum by yelling and venting on them. Their letter to the BRTF will hold water. They are very well respected. They have seen the end game of this process in the North Central coast and know that it is going to get really slippery in the hands of the BRTF.....we should learn from them and try and synch up as much as possible. Agree on everything with them? Probably not....but the ability to access them and provide input is a good opportunity.

tylerdurden · 09-25-2009, 01:05 PM

I know what your saying Dan. I am frustrated with their seeming lack of public stance on which map they like, or what areas they prefer to close or stay open. I just wish they would give some specific public endorsement or stance, not a general thumbs up to the process.

SR is a very respected organization and has done a lot of good things. Their opinion carries weight and I only hope they side with reason. Nothing hurts our chances more than someone ranting and raving at people. It doesn't and hasn't gotten us anywhere.

tylerdurden · 09-29-2009, 08:17 AM

bump.

Tomorrow night. Another chance to show up and push for what is right. We need to be respectful, but we need to be heard too.

tylerdurden · 09-30-2009, 10:51 AM

bump again. Tonight 7pm. Another chance to do some good for our fishing future.

Sept 30.Encinitas Community Center: 1140 Oakcrest Park Drive. Encinitas, CA 92024

Tman · 09-30-2009, 11:12 AM

The Fishcatcher aka Grommet, and I will be there...

I told Clay to kindly remind them that he has 2 boards and 1 kayak...

that he is one of them, and needs to let them know that...

Billy V · 09-30-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tylerdurden

bump again. Tonight 7pm. Another chance to do some good for our fishing future.

Sept 30.Encinitas Community Center: 1140 Oakcrest Park Drive. Encinitas, CA 92024

Who is Going to This Meeting?

09-25-2009, 10:15 AM	#1
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	My take, surf rider isn't for us and aren't against us. They kind of straddle some knife edge trying to cater to both sides but fail. I really wish in their public comment they would come and say something about keeping a specific area open for fishing because of access isues. In private they have been supportive of our access issues as kayakers though. As of yet they have not explicitly stated this in public comment for a specific area that I know of, and it keeps me from supporting them. They support the process in general which is troubling. When I talked to one of them, they seemed to be interested in taking as much of LJ as possible and knowing exactly where the line was that would piss us off. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

09-25-2009, 01:05 PM	#3
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	I know what your saying Dan. I am frustrated with their seeming lack of public stance on which map they like, or what areas they prefer to close or stay open. I just wish they would give some specific public endorsement or stance, not a general thumbs up to the process. SR is a very respected organization and has done a lot of good things. Their opinion carries weight and I only hope they side with reason. Nothing hurts our chances more than someone ranting and raving at people. It doesn't and hasn't gotten us anywhere. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

09-29-2009, 08:17 AM	#4
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	bump. Tomorrow night. Another chance to show up and push for what is right. We need to be respectful, but we need to be heard too. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

09-30-2009, 10:51 AM	#5
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	bump again. Tonight 7pm. Another chance to do some good for our fishing future. *Sept 30.Encinitas Community Center: 1140 Oakcrest Park Drive. Encinitas, CA 92024* __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

09-30-2009, 11:12 AM	#6
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	The Fishcatcher aka Grommet, and I will be there... I told Clay to kindly remind them that he has 2 boards and 1 kayak... that he is one of them, and needs to let them know that... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher