A desperate MLPA Plea!! - Page 4 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Billy V · 06-01-2009, 06:42 PM

A message from BloodyDecks

Let make the most of this.

Guys and gals,

The MLPA Implementation Team has double-crossed fishermen and other consumptives with their blatant bias for the anti-fishing faction. Ed Zieralski, writer for San Diego Tribune called it “Betrayal at its worst in MLPA process.” Paul Leibowitz, writer for Western Outdoor News, called it “Trust Betrayed.”

These actions gravely endanger the right to fish in Southern California. The next Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF) meeting is this Thursday, June 4th, 2009, 9:30AM at the Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel, 6101 West Century Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA. Fishermen and ocean sportsmen of all stripes are recognizing that unless there is a strong public response with the BRTF, the future of fishing in Southern California is doomed due to the fraudulent manner with which this process is being rammed down fishermen’s throats.

Bloodydeckers are mobilizing along with other consumptive communities to respond. We need to let the BRTF know what we think about the voting shenanigan that allows the anti-fishing map External C to continue after it was voted out by the Regional Stake Holders. We need to go and press our concerns regarding the extreme maps again. Keep pushing for the moderate position to keep our fishing areas open. Keep pushing for minimum closures instead of the extreme and expansive closures proposed by the anti-fishing groups. You can also speak about how closing or keeping a specific area open to fishing will affect you, your family, and friends economically and/or recreationally.

While it may seem tedious to go all the way to LA to attend this meeting, especially during a weekday, your attendance matters a great deal. For example, your attendance and speaking out on May 19th made a tremendous difference and is widely credited with helping to swing the tide in our favor. The fact that the anti-fishing crowd has to resort to voting shenanigans, in order for the extremist's External C map to stay alive, should tell you that your presence and testimony do have a tremendous effect.

Keep in mind that these are the very last chances we have to address the BRTF in this MLPA process. They are the decision makers--the next one is in July and then it's into October. There is a meeting late October but the reality is this one and the July meeting are going to be it for addressing these important decision makers.

Also, while you may feel righteously indignant, please keep in mind to be courteous but firm and professional. Don't blow your top; don't act unprofessional; don't use curse words. Remember that the BRTF is the decision makers in this process, and their decision will affect where you can or cannot fish next year.

The public speaking session starts at 9:40AM but please be present by 9AM at the latest. Comment cards should be filled out and handed in before 9:00 AM as they may limit comments to only those cards received by that time.

Hope to see you there Bloodydeckers!!!

Click here for more info about the meeting location and time.
Thursday, June 4, 2009 9:30 a.m.
Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel *
6101 West Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90045

Tman · 06-01-2009, 08:45 PM

Thanks for posting that Billy...another item we should touch on is the fact that not only will many people in the industry be affected, but the state of CA as well.

Currently, there are around 14 state beaches (parks) slated to be cut from the budget...if the state doesn't have the revenue to keep these open and potentially lose the tourist revenue by these actions, where is the $ going to come from to enforce the regs on closures?

For this next meeting, we need to focus on how much it will cost the state in the long run, from lost revenue to enforcement funding.

Some fuel for the fire, I encourage people to print things like this out, know them, and make them (MLPA, RLFF, Wiseman) aware that enforcing the regs will not be feasible...

Makes complete sense, doesn't it?

Lifeguards may be cut at these beaches

New Brighton
Seacliff
Manresa
Natural Bridges
Sunset
Bolsa Chica

South Carlsbad
San Elijo
Cardiff
San Onofre
Carlsbad

Huntington
Doheney
San Clemente
Torrey Pines
Silver Strand

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's budget cuts could mean the closing of up to 220 state parks among them the home of the world's tallest tree and other attractions that draw millions of visitors. Schwarzenegger this week recommended eliminating $70 million in parks spending through June 30, 2010. An additional $143.4 million would be saved in the following fiscal year by keeping the parks closed.

greenscales · 06-01-2009, 10:07 PM

Count me in for Thursday as well. I can fit three addional people in my 4Runner to carpool from Encinitas or North if there are any takers. You just have to put with me listening to talk radio and ocassionally screaming and the latest idiocy coming from the capitals (state, federal, etc.) A nice way to finish the day and detox from the politics would be to watch the Lakers at one of the Pizza Ports or similar venue.

On the politics and press: Forget the Times, they are in the tank for the Enviro-Nazis, with the exception of the sports guys. If they show, they will not report accurately. We probably do not have enough bodies to get the attention of talk radio (but I believe Rodger Hedgecock on KOGO is a sportfisherman). There is a grassroots petition to recall Arnie, they might be willing to add our cause to their list as additional fuel for their own fire, which in turn would get our cause more attention as well.

Holy Mackerel · 06-02-2009, 06:44 AM

1. Chris
2. Moyer
3. Tyler
4. Corey
5. Fallon
6. Steve Green
7. fryguy?
8. Kurt
9. Charles
10. Grego
11. Steveooo (Probably)
12. Buttchaser
13. Trevor
14. Joy
15. Joy's son
16. T-man
17. Kiyo
18. Jim Sammons
19. Dan
20. Cabo John (pending work)
21. James
22. Herbo
23. Habenero
24. Billy V.
25. Don
26. Josh
27. Willy
28. Greenscales
29. Drew
30. Steamroll

Hey Zenspearo.... The Baytuber list...

A couple repeats, but some more new names!

1. chris
2. Kiyo
3. Tattuna
4. Grego
5. buttchaser
6. Gabe
7. bpcode3
8. shortstack
9. Pating
10. Landwhale
11. Kelpangler
12. So-Cal-Shaggy_1
13. buttales
14. dpliska
15. Ron Pascual
16. Ed Smith
17. Kevin Swenson
18. cabo John
19. Jeff Krieger
20. Nephy Nunez
21. Yakrider
22. Andy A.
23. dirthead
24. Rock

Holy Mackerel · 06-02-2009, 12:36 PM

Bump, c'mon, this thing is getting more and more underhanded, we need to shut the place down with numbers.

Billy V · 06-02-2009, 03:10 PM

2527 BWE Members......Where are YOU ?

Holy Mackerel · 06-03-2009, 07:36 AM

BUMP!

ratdog · 06-03-2009, 08:09 AM

I will be there also, for sure.

Kiyo · 06-03-2009, 08:33 AM

almost 40 so far! Come on guys! This may be our last chance!!

Who is going to this next meeting?

1. chris
2. Kiyo
3. Tattuna
4. Grego
5. buttchaser
6. Gabe
7. bpcode3
8. shortstack
9. Pating
10.
11. Kelpangler
12. So-Cal-Shaggy_1
13. buttales
14. dpliska
15. Ron Pascual
16. Ed Smith
17. Kevin Swenson
18. cabo John
19. Jeff Krieger
20. Nephy Nunez
21. Yakrider
22. Andy A.
23. dirthead
24. Rock
25. mg2969
26. defjack
27. Minh
28. Chris DeSantis
29. Travis V.
30. djrich
31. civilizedcaveman
32. Herbo
33. jflyfysh
34. Scott Leachman
35. Benny
36. DLCPoacher
37. Bouncetotheounce 50/50
38. Larry Nickols
39. Lokey 50/50

Holy Mackerel · 06-03-2009, 08:42 AM

Kiyo Update!!!

Guys/Gals we are almost up to 100 kayak fisherman!! C'mon, show up, we need every person available!

Thanks to the unity of all the kayak fishing websites!
www.baytubers.com
www.kayak4fish.com
www.plasticnavy.com
www.bigwatersedge.com
www.kayaksportfishing.com

1. Chris
2. Moyer
3. Tyler
4. Corey
5. Fallon
6. Gabe
7. fryguy?
8. Kurt
9. Charles
10. Grego
11. Steveooo (Probably)
12. Buttchaser
13. Trevor
14. Joy
15. Joy's son
16. T-man
17. Kiyo
18. Jim Sammons
19. Dan
20. Cabo John (pending work)
21. James
22. Herbo
23. Habenero
24. Billy V.
25. Don
26. Josh
27. Willy
28. Greenscales
29. Drew
30. Steamroll
31. bpcode3
32. shortstack
33. pating
34. kelpangler
35. buttales
36. dpliska
37. Ron Pascual
38. Ed Smith
39. Kevin Swenson
40. Jeff Krieger
41. Nephy Nunez
42. Yakrider
43. Andy A.
44. dirthead
45. Rock
46. Ratdog
47. Charles Volkens
48. Rc-fisher
49. aka Hunters Pa (possible 1/2 day)
50. mg2969
51. defjack
52. Minh
53. Chris DeSantis
54. Travis V.
55. djrich
56. civilizedcaveman
57. jflyfysh
58. Scott Leachman
59. Benny
60. DLCPoacher
61. Bouncetotheounce 50/50
62. Larry Nickols
63. Lokey 50/50

Kiyo · 06-03-2009, 11:14 AM

You can add GBF as 50/50 and Sean Caples to the list.

Holy Mackerel · 06-03-2009, 11:23 AM

Guys/Gals we are almost up to 100 kayak fisherman!! C'mon, show up, we need every person available!

Thanks to the unity of all the kayak fishing websites!
www.baytubers.com
www.kayak4fish.com
www.plasticnavy.com
www.bigwatersedge.com
www.kayaksportfishing.com

1. Chris
2. Moyer
3. Tyler
4. Corey
5. Fallon
6. Gabe
7. fryguy?
8. Kurt
9. Charles
10. Grego
11. Steveooo (Probably)
12. Buttchaser
13. Trevor
14. Joy
15. Joy's son
16. T-man
17. Kiyo
18. Jim Sammons
19. Dan
20. Cabo John (pending work)
21. James
22. Herbo
23. Habenero
24. Billy V.
25. Don
26. Josh
27. Willy
28. Greenscales
29. Drew
30. Steamroll
31. bpcode3
32. shortstack
33. pating
34. kelpangler
35. buttales
36. dpliska
37. Ron Pascual
38. Ed Smith
39. Kevin Swenson
40. Jeff Krieger
41. Nephy Nunez
42. Yakrider
43. Andy A.
44. dirthead
45. Rock
46. Ratdog
47. Charles Volkens
48. Rc-fisher
49. aka Hunters Pa (possible 1/2 day)
50. mg2969
51. defjack
52. Minh
53. Chris DeSantis
54. Travis V.
55. djrich
56. civilizedcaveman
57. jflyfysh
58. Scott Leachman
59. Benny
60. DLCPoacher
61. Bouncetotheounce 50/50
62. Larry Nickols
63. Lokey 50/5064. GBF 50/50
65. Sean Caples

C'mon keep signing up, there is still time!

Here is a link with the Details for tomorrow!!

LINK HERE

Thanks, chris

zenspearo · 06-03-2009, 12:17 PM

:

I've never been happier to buy someone a beer (it startin' to look that way)luxhello:

greenscales · 06-03-2009, 06:26 PM

Are there any group meeting places for carpooling to LA tomorrow? Parking may not only be expensive, but might be limited as well. I have got room for 3 and can meet anywhere from Encinitas north.

Thanks,

Richard (greenscales)
(714) 501-2733

06-01-2009, 06:42 PM	#61
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	A message from BloodyDecks Let make the most of this. Guys and gals, The MLPA Implementation Team has double-crossed fishermen and other consumptives with their blatant bias for the anti-fishing faction. Ed Zieralski, writer for San Diego Tribune called it “Betrayal at its worst in MLPA process.” Paul Leibowitz, writer for Western Outdoor News, called it “Trust Betrayed.” These actions gravely endanger the right to fish in Southern California. The next Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF) meeting is this Thursday, June 4th, 2009, 9:30AM at the Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel, 6101 West Century Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA. Fishermen and ocean sportsmen of all stripes are recognizing that unless there is a strong public response with the BRTF, the future of fishing in Southern California is doomed due to the fraudulent manner with which this process is being rammed down fishermen’s throats. Bloodydeckers are mobilizing along with other consumptive communities to respond. We need to let the BRTF know what we think about the voting shenanigan that allows the anti-fishing map External C to continue after it was voted out by the Regional Stake Holders. We need to go and press our concerns regarding the extreme maps again. Keep pushing for the moderate position to keep our fishing areas open. Keep pushing for minimum closures instead of the extreme and expansive closures proposed by the anti-fishing groups. You can also speak about how closing or keeping a specific area open to fishing will affect you, your family, and friends economically and/or recreationally. While it may seem tedious to go all the way to LA to attend this meeting, especially during a weekday, your attendance matters a great deal. For example, your attendance and speaking out on May 19th made a tremendous difference and is widely credited with helping to swing the tide in our favor. The fact that the anti-fishing crowd has to resort to voting shenanigans, in order for the extremist's External C map to stay alive, should tell you that your presence and testimony do have a tremendous effect. Keep in mind that these are the very last chances we have to address the BRTF in this MLPA process. They are the decision makers--the next one is in July and then it's into October. There is a meeting late October but the reality is this one and the July meeting are going to be it for addressing these important decision makers. Also, while you may feel righteously indignant, please keep in mind to be courteous but firm and professional. Don't blow your top; don't act unprofessional; don't use curse words. Remember that the BRTF is the decision makers in this process, and their decision will affect where you can or cannot fish next year. The public speaking session starts at 9:40AM but please be present by 9AM at the latest. Comment cards should be filled out and handed in before 9:00 AM as they may limit comments to only those cards received by that time. Hope to see you there Bloodydeckers!!! Click here for more info about the meeting location and time. Thursday, June 4, 2009 9:30 a.m. Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel * 6101 West Century Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90045 Last edited by Billy V; 06-01-2009 at 07:27 PM.

06-01-2009, 10:07 PM	#63
greenscales greenscales Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Monrovia Posts: 116	Count me as well - is anybody meeting to carpool Count me in for Thursday as well. I can fit three addional people in my 4Runner to carpool from Encinitas or North if there are any takers. You just have to put with me listening to talk radio and ocassionally screaming and the latest idiocy coming from the capitals (state, federal, etc.) A nice way to finish the day and detox from the politics would be to watch the Lakers at one of the Pizza Ports or similar venue. On the politics and press: Forget the Times, they are in the tank for the Enviro-Nazis, with the exception of the sports guys. If they show, they will not report accurately. We probably do not have enough bodies to get the attention of talk radio (but I believe Rodger Hedgecock on KOGO is a sportfisherman). There is a grassroots petition to recall Arnie, they might be willing to add our cause to their list as additional fuel for their own fire, which in turn would get our cause more attention as well.

06-02-2009, 06:44 AM	#64
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	1. Chris 2. Moyer 3. Tyler 4. Corey 5. Fallon 6. Steve Green 7. fryguy? 8. Kurt 9. Charles 10. Grego 11. Steveooo (Probably) 12. Buttchaser 13. Trevor 14. Joy 15. Joy's son 16. T-man 17. Kiyo 18. Jim Sammons 19. Dan 20. Cabo John (pending work) 21. James 22. Herbo 23. Habenero 24. Billy V. 25. Don 26. Josh 27. Willy 28. Greenscales 29. Drew 30. Steamroll Hey Zenspearo.... The Baytuber list... A couple repeats, but some more new names! 1. chris 2. Kiyo 3. Tattuna 4. Grego 5. buttchaser 6. Gabe 7. bpcode3 8. shortstack 9. Pating 10. Landwhale 11. Kelpangler 12. So-Cal-Shaggy_1 13. buttales 14. dpliska 15. Ron Pascual 16. Ed Smith 17. Kevin Swenson 18. cabo John 19. Jeff Krieger 20. Nephy Nunez 21. Yakrider 22. Andy A. 23. dirthead 24. Rock Last edited by Holy Mackerel; 06-02-2009 at 07:17 AM.

06-03-2009, 08:33 AM	#69
Kiyo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Anaheim Posts: 122	almost 40 so far! Come on guys! This may be our last chance!! Who is going to this next meeting? 1. chris 2. Kiyo 3. Tattuna 4. Grego 5. buttchaser 6. Gabe 7. bpcode3 8. shortstack 9. Pating 10. 11. Kelpangler 12. So-Cal-Shaggy_1 13. buttales 14. dpliska 15. Ron Pascual 16. Ed Smith 17. Kevin Swenson 18. cabo John 19. Jeff Krieger 20. Nephy Nunez 21. Yakrider 22. Andy A. 23. dirthead 24. Rock 25. mg2969 26. defjack 27. Minh 28. Chris DeSantis 29. Travis V. 30. djrich 31. civilizedcaveman 32. Herbo 33. jflyfysh 34. Scott Leachman 35. Benny 36. DLCPoacher 37. Bouncetotheounce 50/50 38. Larry Nickols 39. Lokey 50/50 __________________

06-03-2009, 11:14 AM	#71
Kiyo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Anaheim Posts: 122	You can add GBF as 50/50 and Sean Caples to the list. __________________

06-02-2009, 12:36 PM	#65
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Bump, c'mon, this thing is getting more and more underhanded, we need to shut the place down with numbers.

06-02-2009, 03:10 PM	#66
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	2527 BWE Members......Where are YOU ?

06-03-2009, 07:36 AM	#67
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	BUMP!

06-03-2009, 08:09 AM	#68
ratdog Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 424	I will be there also, for sure.

06-03-2009, 08:42 AM	#70
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Kiyo Update!!! Guys/Gals we are almost up to 100 kayak fisherman!! C'mon, show up, we need every person available! Thanks to the unity of all the kayak fishing websites! www.baytubers.com www.kayak4fish.com www.plasticnavy.com www.bigwatersedge.com www.kayaksportfishing.com 1. Chris 2. Moyer 3. Tyler 4. Corey 5. Fallon 6. Gabe 7. fryguy? 8. Kurt 9. Charles 10. Grego 11. Steveooo (Probably) 12. Buttchaser 13. Trevor 14. Joy 15. Joy's son 16. T-man 17. Kiyo 18. Jim Sammons 19. Dan 20. Cabo John (pending work) 21. James 22. Herbo 23. Habenero 24. Billy V. 25. Don 26. Josh 27. Willy 28. Greenscales 29. Drew 30. Steamroll 31. bpcode3 32. shortstack 33. pating 34. kelpangler 35. buttales 36. dpliska 37. Ron Pascual 38. Ed Smith 39. Kevin Swenson 40. Jeff Krieger 41. Nephy Nunez 42. Yakrider 43. Andy A. 44. dirthead 45. Rock 46. Ratdog 47. Charles Volkens 48. Rc-fisher 49. aka Hunters Pa (possible 1/2 day) 50. mg2969 51. defjack 52. Minh 53. Chris DeSantis 54. Travis V. 55. djrich 56. civilizedcaveman 57. jflyfysh 58. Scott Leachman 59. Benny 60. DLCPoacher 61. Bouncetotheounce 50/50 62. Larry Nickols 63. Lokey 50/50

06-03-2009, 11:23 AM	#72
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Guys/Gals we are almost up to 100 kayak fisherman!! C'mon, show up, we need every person available! Thanks to the unity of all the kayak fishing websites! www.baytubers.com www.kayak4fish.com www.plasticnavy.com www.bigwatersedge.com www.kayaksportfishing.com 1. Chris 2. Moyer 3. Tyler 4. Corey 5. Fallon 6. Gabe 7. fryguy? 8. Kurt 9. Charles 10. Grego 11. Steveooo (Probably) 12. Buttchaser 13. Trevor 14. Joy 15. Joy's son 16. T-man 17. Kiyo 18. Jim Sammons 19. Dan 20. Cabo John (pending work) 21. James 22. Herbo 23. Habenero 24. Billy V. 25. Don 26. Josh 27. Willy 28. Greenscales 29. Drew 30. Steamroll 31. bpcode3 32. shortstack 33. pating 34. kelpangler 35. buttales 36. dpliska 37. Ron Pascual 38. Ed Smith 39. Kevin Swenson 40. Jeff Krieger 41. Nephy Nunez 42. Yakrider 43. Andy A. 44. dirthead 45. Rock 46. Ratdog 47. Charles Volkens 48. Rc-fisher 49. aka Hunters Pa (possible 1/2 day) 50. mg2969 51. defjack 52. Minh 53. Chris DeSantis 54. Travis V. 55. djrich 56. civilizedcaveman 57. jflyfysh 58. Scott Leachman 59. Benny 60. DLCPoacher 61. Bouncetotheounce 50/50 62. Larry Nickols 63. Lokey 50/5064. GBF 50/50 65. Sean Caples C'mon keep signing up, there is still time! Here is a link with the Details for tomorrow!! LINK HERE Thanks, chris

06-03-2009, 12:17 PM	#73
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	: I've never been happier to buy someone a beer (it startin' to look that way)luxhello: __________________ A spearo, but we are in this MLPA mess together

06-03-2009, 06:26 PM	#74
greenscales greenscales Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Monrovia Posts: 116	Does anyone want to carpool from North San Diego? Are there any group meeting places for carpooling to LA tomorrow? Parking may not only be expensive, but might be limited as well. I have got room for 3 and can meet anywhere from Encinitas north. Thanks, Richard (greenscales) (714) 501-2733