Next MLPA Meeting May 19th-Public Comment! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Holy Mackerel · 05-20-2009, 06:32 AM

Nice Job guys, what a turn out!

There are a few guys here going on Thurs, as well as, The Baytubers!!!

http://baytuber.informe.com/forum/ka...ing-t4847.html

kurt · 05-20-2009, 06:51 AM

I think we had a good turnout, but need to keep up the pressure. If you fish the OC and did not make it last night, you'd be crazy not to go to the meeting on Thursday. Their is a large contingent of Laguna Beach ecos, not just content to have virtually their own private beaches, but want the kayaks and boats off the waters so their view is unspoiled. They're pressuring for closures from Dana Point to Newport. Time for everyone to step up. The process is biased against us, so we need to represent more than them.

Grego · 05-20-2009, 07:38 AM

Nice seeing some of you guys down/up there...I got there a little too late to submit a card to speak but I got a good feel for what to speak about during my minute of time for the 21st, it was a good recon.

Like Kurt said, I can't believe there weren't more guys from the OC there. Congrats to GreenJeans for speaking up. You guys are going to get screwed if you don't speak up for your spot. Those enviros got Dana Headlands, Laguna, and etc...on their radar. The sportboat captains were there, but they can motor pass any near coast closure....yakkers are going to be SOL.

Billy V · 05-20-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kurt

I think we had a good turnout, but need to keep up the pressure. If you fish the OC and did not make it last night, you'd be crazy not to go to the meeting on Thursday. Their is a large contingent of Laguna Beach ecos, not just content to have virtually their own private beaches, but want the kayaks and boats off the waters so their view is unspoiled. They're pressuring for closures from Dana Point to Newport. Time for everyone to step up. The process is biased against us, so we need to represent more than them.

Those Grey Haired Old Ladies who have more money than God are turning up the Heat. They made it clear that it is their beach, and not some stinking kayakers, or lousy fisherman's playground to use at they please.

Even the Old Ladies are Fighting Dirty,
Claiming that SHE swims in Her Ocean Every Day....cough.cough.bullshit.cough.
testafying that they get Upset when they see fish that have been wounded by bad spearfisherman, and are worried about the protection of their precious SHEEPSCRAB
-How they Love to Fish, but want Closures. -More BS-
--Yes, you read that correctly, I said SHEEPSCRAB.
This is the latest Invented MLPA Word, that in My Opinion out does Seal Grass as heard by the Science Advisory Team. aka Moorons.

Yet another mixed up, over medicated, lying, posturing, and confused People Hating Wasp Environmentalist.
The last drop of Water this lady saw was in a glass full of Dewar's White Label, but they are going to get away with it if We Waterman don't step up to meet the challenge.
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Its really time to join up with the BWE members who are making meetings and are speaking our piece .
-More to come later-

JoeBeck · 05-20-2009, 07:44 AM

It was an amazing experience listening to all of the fishermen speak, the emotions and the reality of the effects these potential closures will have on businesses can't be denied at least from where I was sitting. Everyone needs to continue to speak up. I left just before midnight and our voices were continuing to be echoed

San diego was pretty well represented and voiced to keep La Jolla open. As for people living in Laguna Beach who want to continue to fish, you need to get to the meetings. Those citizins want that whole part of the coast closed.

Any updates why they chose not to record this meeting? Seems odd if they have been recording the rest!

- Joe

fryguy · 05-20-2009, 08:26 AM

Is there a roll call for tomorrow's meeting?

should we bring a video recorder and make sure that we get some footage of the meeting?

Holy Mackerel · 05-20-2009, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fryguy

Is there a roll call for tomorrow's meeting?

should we bring a video recorder and make sure that we get some footage of the meeting?

Check this link,

http://baytuber.informe.com/forum/ka...ing-t4847.html

but PLEASE post A new 21st ROLL CALL here, to get the ball rolling!!!

Thanks,

chris

landwhale · 05-20-2009, 09:05 AM

I will be there in the morning for this chance to speak to the RSG and will try to keep the emotions in check this time..............................

Steven Green

so cal shaggy · 05-20-2009, 09:27 AM

Hey guys, you all did an awesome job last night. For the first time H&L groups outnumbered the spearfishermen at one of these meetings

. I will be there Thursday morning to help the group from baytubers get their speaking cards turned in and to also give them info they need as to the whole process. I will not be speaking Thursday since they have already heard me enough and I made my point to the RSG reps last night but will cede my time to anyone needing it. Keep up the fight guys we outnumbered the non concumptive factions by at least 7 to 1

. The "old lady" that got up and spoke about protecting 3 arch bay has made it very clear in past meetings by clearely stating that "I do not want spearfishermen or fishermen on my beach" something she forgets though is that no one owns the beach and though she may own a piece of land upon which her house sits inside it's own private gated community the beach is public lands to which no one can claim ownership. The next stage in this round will be critical also in which the agreed upon maps will be "shopped around" at public workshops so Joe public can get a look at how these closures will affect them including residents whose taxes will go up to generate revenews for the upkeep of the proposed MPA's. There will be 2 (maybe 3 after overhearing talks yesterday) workshops for each region 2 in the LA/LB area 2 in the Laguna/Dana area and 2 in the SD/LJ area. We need numbers at these meeting most importantly since these will be where the non concumptives try to sway the general public to their direction by accepting the large closure areas we need to be there to speak up (politely and in a non aggressive way) and counter their arguments. Thanks again for showing up guys.

MVC · 05-20-2009, 09:30 AM

I was at the meeting last night from Orange Co but was not able to stay to the end. It was great to see large group of kayak supporters. We will be the most effected by any closures.

05-20-2009, 09:05 AM	#8
landwhale Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach Posts: 506	I will be there in the morning for this chance to speak to the RSG and will try to keep the emotions in check this time.............................. Steven Green __________________

05-20-2009, 09:27 AM	#9
so cal shaggy Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Anaheim Posts: 85	Hey guys, you all did an awesome job last night. For the first time H&L groups outnumbered the spearfishermen at one of these meetings . I will be there Thursday morning to help the group from baytubers get their speaking cards turned in and to also give them info they need as to the whole process. I will not be speaking Thursday since they have already heard me enough and I made my point to the RSG reps last night but will cede my time to anyone needing it. Keep up the fight guys we outnumbered the non concumptive factions by at least 7 to 1 . The "old lady" that got up and spoke about protecting 3 arch bay has made it very clear in past meetings by clearely stating that "I do not want spearfishermen or fishermen on my beach" something she forgets though is that no one owns the beach and though she may own a piece of land upon which her house sits inside it's own private gated community the beach is public lands to which no one can claim ownership. The next stage in this round will be critical also in which the agreed upon maps will be "shopped around" at public workshops so Joe public can get a look at how these closures will affect them including residents whose taxes will go up to generate revenews for the upkeep of the proposed MPA's. There will be 2 (maybe 3 after overhearing talks yesterday) workshops for each region 2 in the LA/LB area 2 in the Laguna/Dana area and 2 in the SD/LJ area. We need numbers at these meeting most importantly since these will be where the non concumptives try to sway the general public to their direction by accepting the large closure areas we need to be there to speak up (politely and in a non aggressive way) and counter their arguments. Thanks again for showing up guys. __________________ Thanks, Jeff

05-20-2009, 06:32 AM	#1
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Nice Job guys, what a turn out! There are a few guys here going on Thurs, as well as, The Baytubers!!! http://baytuber.informe.com/forum/ka...ing-t4847.html

05-20-2009, 06:51 AM	#2
kurt Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: 2 inches above sea level Posts: 503	I think we had a good turnout, but need to keep up the pressure. If you fish the OC and did not make it last night, you'd be crazy not to go to the meeting on Thursday. Their is a large contingent of Laguna Beach ecos, not just content to have virtually their own private beaches, but want the kayaks and boats off the waters so their view is unspoiled. They're pressuring for closures from Dana Point to Newport. Time for everyone to step up. The process is biased against us, so we need to represent more than them.

05-20-2009, 07:38 AM	#3
Grego Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 446	Nice seeing some of you guys down/up there...I got there a little too late to submit a card to speak but I got a good feel for what to speak about during my minute of time for the 21st, it was a good recon. Like Kurt said, I can't believe there weren't more guys from the OC there. Congrats to GreenJeans for speaking up. You guys are going to get screwed if you don't speak up for your spot. Those enviros got Dana Headlands, Laguna, and etc...on their radar. The sportboat captains were there, but they can motor pass any near coast closure....yakkers are going to be SOL.

05-20-2009, 07:44 AM	#5
JoeBeck Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 370	It was an amazing experience listening to all of the fishermen speak, the emotions and the reality of the effects these potential closures will have on businesses can't be denied at least from where I was sitting. Everyone needs to continue to speak up. I left just before midnight and our voices were continuing to be echoed San diego was pretty well represented and voiced to keep La Jolla open. As for people living in Laguna Beach who want to continue to fish, you need to get to the meetings. Those citizins want that whole part of the coast closed. Any updates why they chose not to record this meeting? Seems odd if they have been recording the rest! - Joe

05-20-2009, 08:26 AM	#6
fryguy Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: san diego Posts: 33	Is there a roll call for tomorrow's meeting? should we bring a video recorder and make sure that we get some footage of the meeting?

05-20-2009, 09:30 AM	#10
MVC Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Costa Mesa Posts: 278	I was at the meeting last night from Orange Co but was not able to stay to the end. It was great to see large group of kayak supporters. We will be the most effected by any closures.