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Tman · 03-13-2009, 10:08 AM

"Can you legally hunt and kill sea lions?"

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker

I live in Alaska. The answer is a great big YES. It just floors me that 18 so called 'Experts' here at YA have no clue. Why did they even bother answering if they did not know the answer? Duh.

Both Alaskan and Canadian native peoples can legally hunt these animals. They are required to use all parts of the animal - which they have always done in the past - but it is part of the current Marine Mamal Protection Act verbage.

Under the MMPA indigenous people can hunt seals, walrus etc providing the use the meat and hide. Frequently the meat is eaten locally, the hides are tanned and used to make a number of expensive, and very pretty, waterproof garments. The skulls, tusks and teeth are ivory - this is where current ivory comes from for scrimshaw and other artistic uses - like musical instruments.

Seals, harbor and Stellar, and walrus population in Alaska and Canada are not in any peril. Although big scale harvesting has been stopped - only because of the decline in the fur market - we are close getting to the stage where the government might have to intervine and cull the populations at tax payer expense for the greater good of the animals well being.

What goes around - comes around. People don't like killing seals - so they don't buy seal products. Now your tax money will soon be going to killing seals so they do not overpopulate their habitat. Yup - those tree huggers are one smart group - good thing they don't pay taxes - so they can have a clean conscious.

Here' the link... http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...1154458AAkgReT

Anybody have any Alaskan friends/relatives who want to come for a visit?

dorf · 03-13-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tman

"Can you legally hunt and kill sea lions?"

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker

I live in Alaska. The answer is a great big YES. It just floors me that 18 so called 'Experts' here at YA have no clue. Why did they even bother answering if they did not know the answer? Duh.

Both Alaskan and Canadian native peoples can legally hunt these animals. They are required to use all parts of the animal - which they have always done in the past - but it is part of the current Marine Mamal Protection Act verbage...

Anybody have any Alaskan friends/relatives who want to come for a visit?

From reading this I would understand that it is in Alaska only.
If it is legal here in California you would think that someone from Viejas would look at this as a gold mine for the Casino/Outlet Mall. They could open a jewlery shop with all of the ivory harvested in La Jolla. I would buy a pair of sealskin waders. And BBQ Seal on a stick sounds mighty tasty.

Zed · 03-13-2009, 10:30 AM

Not legal "hunting" but legal culling in OR.
http://marinelife.about.com/b/2009/0...-in-oregon.htm

Money talks. The Humane Society is pretty big but they came up short against the salmon lobby and a Fed judge.

edit, to specify the difference. Cp = seals OR = sea lions. But you knew that.

TXyakker · 03-13-2009, 02:12 PM

This stuff just makes me angry.

I'm getting ready to move back to Texas for my next set of orders, and as much as i'm going to miss the fishing in La Jolla chasing

, I'm so happy to get out of this state and away from these kind of people. I just dont get how people become so dumb and brainwashed to think the way they do, I wish natural selection worked a little more in our favor....

I mean, seals/animals are waaaaaaay more important than people, so we should just let them take over where we like to hang out right?

prowlerdude · 03-13-2009, 04:10 PM

Humane Society of the USA has been associated with eco-terrorists. So has the head of the save the seals. Gonna be funny someday when this washes out and all the politicians that cozzied up to them are hung out to dry. Google these kooks...

http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...ew.cfm?oid=136

http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...iew.cfm?oid=21

http://www.activistcash.com/biography.cfm?bid=3247

http://arfacts.wordpress.com/2008/04...rting-killers/

dsafety · 03-13-2009, 07:09 PM

TXYakker's comment got my juices stiring. +

I consider myself an environmentalist, but I totally agree with his point of view on this subject. The problem is that whenever people take up an extreme position, on just about any issue, they get out of touch with the majority. Sure, there are some occasions when a small minority of vocal people with a minority view can convince the majority to the wisdom of their point of view and change the world. The public's change in their support for the Vietnam and Iraq wars over time are good examples of the kind of changes that dedicated advocates can accomplish if their mission is righteous.

The idea of settting aside traditional swimming beaches in La Jolla for the use of seals, (not native to the area, by the way), that were rescued by Sea World, simply does not past the reasonability test. Our politicians are so obcessed with winning re-election, that most of them rarely turn their brain on when it comes to sensitive issues. The simply wet their fingers and stick them in the air to see which way the popular winds are blowing.

I was a lifeguard at both the Casa and the Cove years ago when people, (remember them), were the main visitors at these beaches. It would be a very sad day indeed if human usage of these two treasures is forbidden. I, for one, would happily join the revolution to overthrow those who make these kinds of stupid decisions.

Bob

03-13-2009, 10:08 AM	#1
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Question posed on Yahoo Answers... "Can you legally hunt and kill sea lions?" Best Answer - Chosen by Asker I live in Alaska. The answer is a great big YES. It just floors me that 18 so called 'Experts' here at YA have no clue. Why did they even bother answering if they did not know the answer? Duh. Both Alaskan and Canadian native peoples can legally hunt these animals. They are required to use all parts of the animal - which they have always done in the past - but it is part of the current Marine Mamal Protection Act verbage. Under the MMPA indigenous people can hunt seals, walrus etc providing the use the meat and hide. Frequently the meat is eaten locally, the hides are tanned and used to make a number of expensive, and very pretty, waterproof garments. The skulls, tusks and teeth are ivory - this is where current ivory comes from for scrimshaw and other artistic uses - like musical instruments. Seals, harbor and Stellar, and walrus population in Alaska and Canada are not in any peril. Although big scale harvesting has been stopped - only because of the decline in the fur market - we are close getting to the stage where the government might have to intervine and cull the populations at tax payer expense for the greater good of the animals well being. What goes around - comes around. People don't like killing seals - so they don't buy seal products. Now your tax money will soon be going to killing seals so they do not overpopulate their habitat. Yup - those tree huggers are one smart group - good thing they don't pay taxes - so they can have a clean conscious. Here' the link... http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...1154458AAkgReT Anybody have any Alaskan friends/relatives who want to come for a visit? __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

03-13-2009, 10:30 AM	#3
Zed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: W of 5 Posts: 1,265	Not legal "hunting" but legal culling in OR. http://marinelife.about.com/b/2009/0...-in-oregon.htm Money talks. The Humane Society is pretty big but they came up short against the salmon lobby and a Fed judge. edit, to specify the difference. Cp = seals OR = sea lions. But you knew that. __________________ Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.

03-13-2009, 02:12 PM	#4
TXyakker Junior Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: PB Posts: 26	This stuff just makes me angry. I'm getting ready to move back to Texas for my next set of orders, and as much as i'm going to miss the fishing in La Jolla chasing , I'm so happy to get out of this state and away from these kind of people. I just dont get how people become so dumb and brainwashed to think the way they do, I wish natural selection worked a little more in our favor.... I mean, seals/animals are waaaaaaay more important than people, so we should just let them take over where we like to hang out right?

03-13-2009, 04:10 PM	#5
prowlerdude Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Clairemont Posts: 116	Humane Society of the USA has been associated with eco-terrorists. So has the head of the save the seals. Gonna be funny someday when this washes out and all the politicians that cozzied up to them are hung out to dry. Google these kooks... http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...ew.cfm?oid=136 http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...iew.cfm?oid=21 http://www.activistcash.com/biography.cfm?bid=3247 http://arfacts.wordpress.com/2008/04...rting-killers/

03-13-2009, 07:09 PM	#6
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,123	TXYakker's comment got my juices stiring. + I consider myself an environmentalist, but I totally agree with his point of view on this subject. The problem is that whenever people take up an extreme position, on just about any issue, they get out of touch with the majority. Sure, there are some occasions when a small minority of vocal people with a minority view can convince the majority to the wisdom of their point of view and change the world. The public's change in their support for the Vietnam and Iraq wars over time are good examples of the kind of changes that dedicated advocates can accomplish if their mission is righteous. The idea of settting aside traditional swimming beaches in La Jolla for the use of seals, (not native to the area, by the way), that were rescued by Sea World, simply does not past the reasonability test. Our politicians are so obcessed with winning re-election, that most of them rarely turn their brain on when it comes to sensitive issues. The simply wet their fingers and stick them in the air to see which way the popular winds are blowing. I was a lifeguard at both the Casa and the Cove years ago when people, (remember them), were the main visitors at these beaches. It would be a very sad day indeed if human usage of these two treasures is forbidden. I, for one, would happily join the revolution to overthrow those who make these kinds of stupid decisions. Bob