Election 2016

[Mahigeer]

Originally Posted by WARRIORMIKE

Its an easy fix. IF you dont like being an American. Leave. You dont even have to say goodbye. Just simply leave.
There are far worst places that we can live in.....

That is such a chickenshit statement.

History has shown us that voters have made mistakes in the past.
Nixon, Reagan and two Bushes. This too shall pass.

[surfisher]

Originally Posted by Mahigeer

That is such a chickenshit statement.

History has shown us that voters have made mistakes in the past.
Nixon, Reagan and two Bushes. This too shall pass.

You forgot Obama on that list ...

[farreola]

Only time will tell!!!

[WARRIORMIKE]

Originally Posted by Mahigeer

That is such a chickenshit statement.

History has shown us that voters have made mistakes in the past.
Nixon, Reagan and two Bushes. This too shall pass.

Is it?? or am I being to blunt? Yea we dont live in a perfect country. I get it. Not everyone is going to be happy. However all those other last names you mentioned were all politicians. First time a president has a business background. With no political history. Only time WILL tell....

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

[Mahigeer]

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

If I recall it was the assassinated president Kennedy who said that.
A Democrat.

Sending trump to run a country is like having a laborer do brain surgery, because all of the surgeries have been done by medically trained staff.

Now lets see if the laborer can do a better job.

He never showed his tax returns. He had bankruptcies and he took advantage of small business.

He molested women, insulted everyone, his wife worked illegally, so on and so far.

Lets agree that we disagree, but don't use the love it or leave it bullshit.

[WARRIORMIKE]

Originally Posted by Mahigeer

If I recall it was the assassinated president Kennedy who said that.
A Democrat.

Sending trump to run a country is like having a laborer do brain surgery, because all of the surgeries have been done by medically trained staff.

Now lets see if the laborer can do a better job.

He never showed his tax returns. He had bankruptcies and he took advantage of small business.

He molested women, insulted everyone, his wife worked illegally, so on and so far.

Lets agree that we disagree, but don't use the love it or leave it bullshit.

I'm gonna get back to fishing. If you want me to get more political with let me which forum to go to and I'll meet you there. I personally hate politics. However I hate when people abuse free stuff. The direction of this nation need to change. I'm hoping for a positive future.


See you on the water man

[GregAndrew]

Originally Posted by Mahigeer

If I recall it was the assassinated president Kennedy who said that.
A Democrat.

Sending trump to run a country is like having a laborer do brain surgery, because all of the surgeries have been done by medically trained staff.

Now lets see if the laborer can do a better job.

He never showed his tax returns. He had bankruptcies and he took advantage of small business.

He molested women, insulted everyone, his wife worked illegally, so on and so far.

Lets agree that we disagree, but don't use the love it or leave it bullshit.

Unfortunately, Kennedy was the last Democrat that believed in the motto. Now the voters on that side are only concerned with what the government can give or legislate for them or others. And their politicians are about what they can give (or promise) the voters to improve their wealth or power. Not that the incumbent Republican politicians are any better.

How well do you think the career politicians (some would call experienced) have been running the country? They all seem to be more interested in building their own power and wealth than advancing the country (both parties).

The one sure thing with stronger borders is that there will be fewer people willing to take less money to do the work that should be fairly compensated for. That will do at least 2 things, drive out unscrupulous businessmen that take advantage of them while hurting their legal competition. Second, it will drive up wages for the lowest wage earners. I think those "laborers" will appreciate it.

Tax returns? really? Do you think he cheated on his taxes or do you think he should just offer to give more than the law asks of him?

Bankruptcies, I will give you that one as a legitimate argument against him, but most successful business people have failed before they became successful.

I am pretty certain you would not be able to find a successful business person that you could not accuse of taking advantage of small business. Hard to stay afloat paying all your suppliers suggested retail price.

The only thing proven about the abuse claims is that some of them were certainly untrue.

While he said some things I thought could have been phrased differently, and a few things I disagreed with, he never offended me. In fact, the only groups I can think of that he directly offended was "radical Islamic Terrorists", illegal aliens and career politicians. That is if you don't interject your own "interpretation" of what he actually said and meant.

For those of you concerned that having the house, senate and presidency controlled by the same party, you might want to consider that the first 2 never considered Trump as part of their party until they had no choice. He was a lifelong Democrat until recently, and I believe he will remain very moderate. His main differences with Democrats now are border security, the government can't give away (or spend away) prosperity and runaway regulation kills business.

[rossman]

Well said, well spoken Greg. If I look at this election from the 50,000 ft level I see the people saying "anything but what we have now!". Historically it has never been good to have a single party controlling the House, Senate and White House but also historically it happens because the previous administration was simply not palatable to the American voters. The political parties tend to get what they deserve in this great system. I happen to believe that the Obama's were the nicest, most wholesome family to ever inhabit the White House, certainly in my lifetime, and that is a legacy that will be safe certainly for the next 4 years, but ideologically I would clash with him on most levels.

Originally Posted by GregAndrew

Unfortunately, Kennedy was the last Democrat that believed in the motto. Now the voters on that side are only concerned with what the government can give or legislate for them or others. And their politicians are about what they can give (or promise) the voters to improve their wealth or power. Not that the incumbent Republican politicians are any better.

How well do you think the career politicians (some would call experienced) have been running the country? They all seem to be more interested in building their own power and wealth than advancing the country (both parties).

The one sure thing with stronger borders is that there will be fewer people willing to take less money to do the work that should be fairly compensated for. That will do at least 2 things, drive out unscrupulous businessmen that take advantage of them while hurting their legal competition. Second, it will drive up wages for the lowest wage earners. I think those "laborers" will appreciate it.

Tax returns? really? Do you think he cheated on his taxes or do you think he should just offer to give more than the law asks of him?

Bankruptcies, I will give you that one as a legitimate argument against him, but most successful business people have failed before they became successful.

I am pretty certain you would not be able to find a successful business person that you could not accuse of taking advantage of small business. Hard to stay afloat paying all your suppliers suggested retail price.

The only thing proven about the abuse claims is that some of them were certainly untrue.

While he said some things I thought could have been phrased differently, and a few things I disagreed with, he never offended me. In fact, the only groups I can think of that he directly offended was "radical Islamic Terrorists", illegal aliens and career politicians. That is if you don't interject your own "interpretation" of what he actually said and meant.

For those of you concerned that having the house, senate and presidency controlled by the same party, you might want to consider that the first 2 never considered Trump as part of their party until they had no choice. He was a lifelong Democrat until recently, and I believe he will remain very moderate. His main differences with Democrats now are border security, the government can't give away (or spend away) prosperity and runaway regulation kills business.

[Rocketfish]

Originally Posted by Mahigeer

If I recall it was the assassinated president Kennedy who said that.
A Democrat.

Sending trump to run a country is like having a laborer do brain surgery, because all of the surgeries have been done by medically trained staff.

Now lets see if the laborer can do a better job.

He never showed his tax returns. He had bankruptcies and he took advantage of small business.

He molested women, insulted everyone, his wife worked illegally, so on and so far.

Lets agree that we disagree, but don't use the love it or leave it bullshit.

Well said Mahigeer. I am saddened by the outcome of this election (once again, the electoral college doesn't represent the majority), but it is what it is - the country has spoken. We will see what happens in the next 4 years.

It's a shame, in my opinion, that voters overlooked all those things you mentioned above for the sake of change. While I understand that people think our system is "broken" or what not, to elect someone who is blatantly evil as outlined above, makes me very sad. There is no excuse for his behavior and bullying. NOT from someone presidential. Let's see how far his supposed business sense can take this country. If it turns out for the better, then good for the country. If not, then I hope those who voted for him will realize what they've contributed to.

[makobob]

ELECTION is OVER, let's all go fishing!!!! Leaving Fri/Sat for Baja for a few dats, Tight Lines.