waders and safety - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

jorluivil · 04-01-2016, 06:42 AM

The water in your waders isn't any heavier than the water that sits outside of the waders so if you're worried about sinking its not going to happen.

Also, the waters in our coastal waters doesn't get to a point where you will have to worry about hypothermia.

https://youtu.be/2m0_naq0-qc

Zed · 04-01-2016, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

Also, the waters in our coastal waters doesn't get to a point where you will have to worry about hypothermia.

Thats really an ignorant statement. You can get hypothermia floating around in Cabo or HI. Unless youre in the jacuzzi, the water is colder than your core and it robs you of heat. 55-60° water will shut you down quick enough.

FARRIER · 04-01-2016, 08:17 AM

You most certainly can get hypothermia in our waters. Ive seen it. It can impair your ability to make rash decisions when it happens. As far as the waders go. You must judge your own risk vs reward. Also your own skill in the water. We have pretty accomplished watermen in our group here. But I jumped into a pool with mine on and no belt and im still alive to talk about it.

FullFlavorPike · 04-01-2016, 08:38 AM

The waders are big. If you fall overboard and can't get back in because they're full of heavy water, then you can always shrug out of them, climb back into your boat, pull the waders up after the fact, and then keep fishing if it's warm out. More likely than not, the wading belt will trap air the waders (if it's on correctly) while you bob like a cork. You're not gonna drown because waders.

Make sure you buy a splash jacket to wear during surf launches. Take one or two shots across the bow and the waders full of water will ruin your day.

Mahigeer · 04-01-2016, 09:04 AM

I purchased a pair of waders with zippers to eliminate removing when going pepe.

Kayak_Bernie · 04-01-2016, 10:28 AM

I have the unique perspective of living in many places where waders are a must for kayak fishing. I've lived the Pacific Northwest, and several states surrounding the Great Lakes. So here is my two cents: In places where the water is less than 60 degrees or air temps are lower than mid sixties I will wear waders and a dry jacket, (a poor mans dry suit, but very effective) If you were to take a spill in coastal Oregon or Lake Superior this setup will keep you dry and give you enough time to re-enter the kayak without having to worry about that instant cols shock hypothermia. Nothing but a survival suit will allow you to spend a long time in 50 degree water. In our local waters most of the time the air temp is warm enough during the day that if you take a lap full of water on launching you will dry off and not get too cold. At night I think I would be wearing some type of waterproof pants or jacket . I have some wading pants that have neoprene stocking feet and they work well for early launches on cloudy or cool days.

Also a wading belt works very well to keep water from pouring into your waders, and if you have ever gone chest deep in the water with waders on you realized that the pressure from the water seals the waders to you like a second skin, so you dont have to worry about them acting like an anchor and pulling your to your death.

Bottom line is this in order to be safe, always wear your life jacket, and know how to self rescue. In SoCal what you wear is going to be dependent on the water temp and the air temps, and how comfortable you are when wet. If it is going to ruin your day, wear the waders, if its warm and you have quick drying clothes then they probably aren't needed.

Keep safe out there and find your comfort zone.

jorluivil · 04-01-2016, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zed

Thats really an ignorant statement. You can get hypothermia floating around in Cabo or HI. Unless youre in the jacuzzi, the water is colder than your core and it robs you of heat. 55-60° water will shut you down quick enough.

If YOU know that you can suffer from hypothermia in our own waters what do YOU do to prevent it? If you're wearing wool socks with some thermal pants and a sweater its fair to say that you're also ignorant by going out and not being prepared. Hell, if that's the case we're all ignorant.

FullFlavorPike · 04-01-2016, 02:54 PM

Teh texture of the nylon fabric is perfect for scrubbing mackerel slime off your hands, too.

Zed · 04-01-2016, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

If YOU know that you can suffer from hypothermia in our own waters what do YOU do to prevent it? If you're wearing wool socks with some thermal pants and a sweater its fair to say that you're also ignorant by going out and not being prepared. Hell, if that's the case we're all ignorant.

I dont tell newbs not to worry about it.

DanaPT · 04-01-2016, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zed

I dont tell newbs not to worry about it.

I worry more about hooks in my hand than hypothermia.

But Zed is correct. you can die in the ocean.

ALWAYS practice getting back into your kayak. NEVER go out alone.

two absolutes that everyone should keep in mind.

Wanderingincircles · 04-02-2016, 01:27 PM

thanks for all the info! I kind of want to get a pair to try in my pool after that video. If anything, it should help with the confidence.

04-01-2016, 06:42 AM	#1
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,855	The water in your waders isn't any heavier than the water that sits outside of the waders so if you're worried about sinking its not going to happen. Also, the waters in our coastal waters doesn't get to a point where you will have to worry about hypothermia. https://youtu.be/2m0_naq0-qc __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer Last edited by jorluivil; 04-01-2016 at 06:47 AM.

04-01-2016, 08:17 AM	#3
FARRIER Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cmont [] Posts: 314	You most certainly can get hypothermia in our waters. Ive seen it. It can impair your ability to make rash decisions when it happens. As far as the waders go. You must judge your own risk vs reward. Also your own skill in the water. We have pretty accomplished watermen in our group here. But I jumped into a pool with mine on and no belt and im still alive to talk about it. __________________ "It depends on what the meaning of the words 'is' is." –Bill Clinton

04-01-2016, 10:28 AM	#6
Kayak_Bernie Live Watersports ProStaff Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Rolando Village Posts: 224	I have the unique perspective of living in many places where waders are a must for kayak fishing. I've lived the Pacific Northwest, and several states surrounding the Great Lakes. So here is my two cents: In places where the water is less than 60 degrees or air temps are lower than mid sixties I will wear waders and a dry jacket, (a poor mans dry suit, but very effective) If you were to take a spill in coastal Oregon or Lake Superior this setup will keep you dry and give you enough time to re-enter the kayak without having to worry about that instant cols shock hypothermia. Nothing but a survival suit will allow you to spend a long time in 50 degree water. In our local waters most of the time the air temp is warm enough during the day that if you take a lap full of water on launching you will dry off and not get too cold. At night I think I would be wearing some type of waterproof pants or jacket . I have some wading pants that have neoprene stocking feet and they work well for early launches on cloudy or cool days. Also a wading belt works very well to keep water from pouring into your waders, and if you have ever gone chest deep in the water with waders on you realized that the pressure from the water seals the waders to you like a second skin, so you dont have to worry about them acting like an anchor and pulling your to your death. Bottom line is this in order to be safe, always wear your life jacket, and know how to self rescue. In SoCal what you wear is going to be dependent on the water temp and the air temps, and how comfortable you are when wet. If it is going to ruin your day, wear the waders, if its warm and you have quick drying clothes then they probably aren't needed. Keep safe out there and find your comfort zone. __________________ Heroes on the Water SoCal Chapter Safety Director

04-01-2016, 08:38 AM	#4
FullFlavorPike Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 809	The waders are big. If you fall overboard and can't get back in because they're full of heavy water, then you can always shrug out of them, climb back into your boat, pull the waders up after the fact, and then keep fishing if it's warm out. More likely than not, the wading belt will trap air the waders (if it's on correctly) while you bob like a cork. You're not gonna drown because waders. Make sure you buy a splash jacket to wear during surf launches. Take one or two shots across the bow and the waders full of water will ruin your day.

04-01-2016, 09:04 AM	#5
Mahigeer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,870	I purchased a pair of waders with zippers to eliminate removing when going pepe.

04-01-2016, 02:54 PM	#8
FullFlavorPike Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 809	Teh texture of the nylon fabric is perfect for scrubbing mackerel slime off your hands, too.

04-02-2016, 01:27 PM	#11
Wanderingincircles Junior Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: San Bernardino, CA Posts: 26	thanks for all the info! I kind of want to get a pair to try in my pool after that video. If anything, it should help with the confidence.