RAM vs Scotty

[Mr. NiceGuy]

Originally Posted by YakDout

Scotty powerlocks on the side for trolling. Works awesome. Ive heard the orcas were good too. I also have the rubber washers and both rod holders to give me infinite amount of adjustment.

It looks like the new models replaced the rubber strap with a twist lock.

Looks good for under $20
http://www.amazon.com/Scotty-230-GR-...ty+power+locks


Here's the Scotty Orca for $25 with the "fastest pole lock release"
http://www.amazon.com/Scotty-Orca-Ho...rca+rod+holder

[alanw]

That's a great price on the Orcas. I had powerlocks but switched to Orcas because my rods wouldn't fit in the powerlocks properly. I agree that the ram ball can move when a fish hits, but that could be good sometimes like when a big hali hit my scotty mounted rod while I was relaxing, and almost flipped me I also like the locked ram tubes that come standard on the Kraken. Why limit yourself to one brand? Use gear track and you can mount whatever is good for the current purpose.

[tstephens3232]

Thanks for all the input. I'll probably go with scotty anyone have any experience with with rocket launcher style for trolling seems like you could get the rod out of that pretty easy.

http://www.amazon.com/Scotty-479-Roc...1ZJAA9ZFQ0MVPK

[Mr. NiceGuy]

Originally Posted by tstephens3232

Thanks for all the input. I'll probably go with scotty anyone have any experience with with rocket launcher style for trolling seems like you could get the rod out of that pretty easy.

http://www.amazon.com/Scotty-479-Roc...1ZJAA9ZFQ0MVPK

I'm curious too. Do these ever rip off at the attachment point because of the leverage? It seems like a mechanically unsound design to me, bolted into a small area of soft plastic. At least compared to those rod holders that mount by extending to the bottom of the molded pole holders in the hull of the kayak. I don't know that answer because I do not have personal experience with this. I just want to be cautious.

Logically, the leverage against the attachment point comes from a 7' pole with heavy line and the angle at which the holder is set relative to the direction the fish pulls. Maybe that means the shape or length of the part that holds the rod doesn't affect the force of leverage at the attachment point, right?

You know the size of the monsters we dream of catching. It would be sad to lose one because the rod holder broke off or our favorite pole and reel runs away with the fish.

Unless it's for bait fish with multiple poles or lazy-day bottom fishing I like to actively fish with my pole in my hand, including trolling.

[Mahigeer]

I mounted several flush mount rod holders on my XFactor.

However, I used the backing plate for the one which would be used for a pulley to pull up hoop nets.
http://www.scotty.com/fishing-gear-e...ckingPlate.htm
http://www.scotty.com/fishing-gear-e...s/trapease.htm

I felt I needed a better attachment for this particular holder.

I have the tube holders too, and I liked it. When I am trolling, I have the conventional reel in light drag with the clicker on.

Thus, no chance of losing the rod or tipping over when the big fish hits the hook.

Of course the rod is on leash as well, unless I am holding it to reel in the catch.

[tstephens3232]

Mr. Niceguy - 100% agree with leverage issue (my biggest concern) and to further the risk the kayak I just bought (Native Slayer Propel) comes stock with rail system pretty much everywhere so I'll just be screwing into that for now which make my surface area at the base smaller than the typical 4 screw mounts and probably more weak.

Mahigeer - I was looking at that same thing for hoop netting then I realized i'll probably just my 2 speed accurate atd 30 on an old stubby kite rod (from my east coast days) as winch. Was thinking that one forward facing rod holder that comes stock on the slayer would be perfect for it, we'll see.

Also agree with the trolling in free spool theory.

Thanks for the input.

[wolfman]

Before buying anything look at Rail Blaza pole holders. They are fully adjustable and they don't slip, ever, and you don't have to tighten them with plyers

[Mahigeer]

Originally Posted by tstephens3232

Mahigeer - I was looking at that same thing for hoop netting then I realized i'll probably just my 2 speed accurate atd 30 on an old stubby kite rod (from my east coast days) as winch. Was thinking that one forward facing rod holder that comes stock on the slayer would be perfect for it, we'll see.

Also agree with the trolling in free spool theory.

Thanks for the input.

Can you put 100 feet of rope on the Accurate reel? Even if you do, that is good for one hoop net.

Maybe I did not understand your method.