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Old 03-10-2014, 05:00 PM   #1
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As most of you guys know, There are certain lakes in southern california that don't allow kayakers or float tubers, or in some specific cases, only allow sit IN kayaks. They say this is because they want to limit "human contact" with our drinking water... I guess no one told them about every animals fecal matter, dead bodies, and private boater petroleums being released with every outing. I guess its ok for all of those things but God forbid anyone accidently touch the water while landing a bass.
Even beyond all of that, the water doesn't just go straight to our homes, there is a mild purification system that takes place before we get it. So all of the things that go on in the water is cleaned and taken care of before it gets to us. So what's so wrong with letting a kayaker or float tuber on the water? Absolutely nothing. There is no good reason. If I'm missing something let me know
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Old 03-10-2014, 05:16 PM   #2
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It's the same reason why people refuse to drink "recycled" water (processed pee/poop water).

Chemically-speaking, the recycled water actually comes out cleaner than your "real" tap water, but that doesn't matter. Most people have an irrational (not based in science) aversion to drinking water that used-to-be pee/poop.

It tastes like nothing, because it is literally all pure H2O (which has no taste). Yes... I have 1st-hand experience with recycled water.

In reality, all water on the planet has a good chance that it was poop/pee at one time or another.
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Old 03-10-2014, 05:25 PM   #3
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It's the same reason why people refuse to drink "recycled" water (processed pee/poop water).

Chemically-speaking, the recycled water actually comes out cleaner than your "real" tap water, but that doesn't matter. Most people have an irrational (not based in science) aversion to drinking water that used-to-be pee/poop.

It tastes like nothing, because it is literally all pure H2O (which has no taste). Yes... I have 1st-hand experience with recycled water.

In reality, all water on the planet has a good chance that it was poop/pee at one time or another.
Well put, I'm just saying that people don't think about there being poop/pee in the water, therefore its not there. Out of sight and out of mind. But the fact is, there's that AND more in the water. I just want more places to fish haha
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Old 03-10-2014, 05:37 PM   #4
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From how I understand it, it makes sense. Animal pee/poop is natural, same as a dead animal in the water. It's normal biological waste which is easily filtered out.

Humans on the other hand can introduce some serious viruses and diseases and infectious nastiness that aren't as easily filtered out of the water.
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It's the same reason why people refuse to drink "recycled" water (processed pee/poop water).

Chemically-speaking, the recycled water actually comes out cleaner than your "real" tap water, but that doesn't matter. Most people have an irrational (not based in science) aversion to drinking water that used-to-be pee/poop.

It tastes like nothing, because it is literally all pure H2O (which has no taste). Yes... I have 1st-hand experience with recycled water.

In reality, all water on the planet has a good chance that it was poop/pee at one time or another.
WE have all been drinking piss water from every thing that has ever existed on this space ship of ours. It is ALL RECYCLED daily, ENJOY.
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WE have all been drinking piss water from every thing that has ever existed on this space ship of ours. It is ALL RECYCLED daily, ENJOY.
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From how I understand it, it makes sense. Animal pee/poop is natural, same as a dead animal in the water. It's normal biological waste which is easily filtered out.

Humans on the other hand can introduce some serious viruses and diseases and infectious nastiness that aren't as easily filtered out of the water.
Look Up Beaver Feaver....

Saying that a boat engine is cleaner than a Kayak is just BS Pure and simple...
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Old 03-11-2014, 07:13 AM   #8
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Old 03-11-2014, 07:42 AM   #9
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What is in it for these people??? Its a real shame
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Old 03-11-2014, 07:58 AM   #10
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WE have all been drinking piss water from every thing that has ever existed on this space ship of ours. It is ALL RECYCLED daily, ENJOY.
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All of the water we drink is the same water that the dinosaurs drank a million years ago. Period.

Although, the water has taken multiple forms since then, i.e. Vapor, Ice, Liquid and even broken down into individual parts and reassembled again (Plant Photosynthesis for example.)

Like what another poster said, it's what we introduce into those waters that is the dangrous part. It was explained to me by a lake water expert a long time ago that we can introduce some pretty funky chemicals and diseases into the water that the normal lake habitat has a hard time dealing with. Let alone what goes past the filters before it becomes potable water. So they limit human contact as much as possible to minimize the risk.

Yes, animals die, poop/pee in the same water that we're not allowed to swim in, but animals "generally" don't have odd diseases like HIV, Flu, etc and they don't have soaps, sunscreens and perfumes on their skin. All of the things a pooping, peeing and dying animal places in the water can be filtered out easily and predictably.

Oh and I agree with the oddity of allowing chemical spewing boats but not a sit on top kayak... but who knows, maybe that stuff is filtered out easily as well.... maybe they're worried about a disease outbreak primarily or something.
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As if the guys fishing from shore aren'y whizzing on a bush at the waters edge
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Are the boaters not rinsing the fish slime off their hands in the lake?
Or taking a piss when nobody is looking?
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Are the boaters not rinsing the fish slime off their hands in the lake?
Or taking a piss when nobody is looking?
Not the ones that follow the rules
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Not the ones that follow the rules
But it still happens. A lot more than people think. If its not ZERO then there is a problem.
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Not the ones that follow the rules
Is the rule:No human contact??
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The rule usually is "No Bodily Contact"
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It's $$$$. That's the only reason. Not poop, not pee, not body contact. Just good ol fashioned $$$$.

I fish there all the time in a sit inside. Same body contact as a sit on top.
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