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ful-rac · 10-13-2012, 08:21 AM

Hoop Netting for Lobsters with Pantyhose

Q: While hoop netting lobsters in the past, I have used a piece of old pantyhose to keep the bait together. It’s worked well, but recently I was told it’s illegal to do because a lobster may get entangled on the hose. This has never happened in the times that I have hoop netted. I’m trying to be legal at all times. Am I breaking the law by using this method? (Doug F.)

A: Hoop nets are legal to use to take lobster, but traps are not. If hoop nets are modified in any manner that causes the lobster to become entangled or trapped, then the device ceases to be a hoop net and becomes a trap. The fabric used to make pantyhose is known to be an effective trap for lobsters and is not recommended for use on any part of a hoop net when it’s used to take lobster.

Hoop nets may contain a bait container, but may in no way act to entangle or impede the movement of lobster while it tries to leave the net. If it does, then the device would be illegal, no matter what material is used to construct the bait container.

This is from that carrie wilson lady from the DFG....just say'n! Make sure when dfg shows up...put'em on.....quickly...!

lowprofile · 10-13-2012, 08:26 AM

ah yi yi, so many laws... ill switch to old dew rags.

vincentek9 · 10-13-2012, 09:14 AM

panty hose is not used to trap a lobster. panty hose = elastic bait cage. if using a panty-hose to hold your bait is illegal... then so is using a bait cage. or zip tying your bait down.

anyways. nice going! i did 3 pulls on a set of 6 nets. total of 1 bug (barely legal). i dont know what i'm doing wrong, but you must be doing it right.

bus kid · 10-13-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mtnbykr2

congrats on that....

I am at work....

me too check me out at brassers!

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

Ummmmm. He was talking to me

no he wasnt 2 are better then 1!

jorluivil · 10-13-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bus kid

me too check me out at brassers!

My live feed is on a site that rhymes with vangvus

tehburninator · 10-13-2012, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

My live feed is on a site that rhymes with vangvus

damnbugs.com?

bus kid · 10-13-2012, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

My live feed is on a site that rhymes with vangvus

Ghay for pay huh?

StinkyMatt · 10-13-2012, 12:06 PM

Went out to the secret spot last night. Got 7 lobsters in one hoop all in the 5-6 pound range. Actually I made one of the twin sister supermodels that was with me pull the nets. I wanted to save my energy for a later "feast"

One supermodel.......that's so 80s.

Deamon · 10-13-2012, 12:11 PM

Chris man you get around. Way to go on finding a quality bug spot. Enjoy the eats. Jim

Aaron&Julie · 10-13-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by vincentek9

panty hose is not used to trap a lobster. panty hose = elastic bait cage. if using a panty-hose to hold your bait is illegal... then so is using a bait cage. or zip tying your bait down.

anyways. nice going! i did 3 pulls on a set of 6 nets. total of 1 bug (barely legal). i dont know what i'm doing wrong, but you must be doing it right.

Perhaps you are unaware, an individual can only have 5 nets to themselves.

vincentek9 · 10-15-2012, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron&Julie

Perhaps you are unaware, an individual can only have 5 nets to themselves.

perhaps you don't realize that i was on a boat with a second person. that person. and yes, they have a lobster card as well.

Aaron&Julie · 10-15-2012, 09:23 AM

anyways. nice going! i did 3 pulls on a set of 6 nets. total of 1 bug (barely legal). i dont know what i'm doing wrong, but you must be doing it right.

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Originally Posted by vincentek9

perhaps you don't realize that i was on a boat with a second person. that person. and yes, they have a lobster card as well.

No, I did not realize that, since it wasn't mentioned in your post.
Most of the posts here are people going solo on kayaks, I presumed as much in your report, since you didn't mention being on a boat with another person, and you used the 1st person singular in your post.
Still, if you, as an individual are pulling 6 nets up at a time you are still violating the law, not that I care about that. DFG with their night-vision binoculars can see much, and most of them care a hell of a lot. One ticket will prove that.
My original post wasn't directed solely at you, but any others that may be ignorant of what the law allows. No need for anyone to get a ticket because someone's post was a little vague and misleading in it's content.
Better luck to you next trip.

bus kid · 10-15-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron&Julie

My original post wasn't directed solely at you, but any others that may be ignorant of what the law allows. No need for anyone to get a ticket because someone's post was a little vague and misleading in it's content.
Better luck to you next trip.

Isn't that what the MLPA is all about.

10-13-2012, 08:21 AM	#1
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	Hoop Netting for Lobsters with Pantyhose Q: While hoop netting lobsters in the past, I have used a piece of old pantyhose to keep the bait together. It’s worked well, but recently I was told it’s illegal to do because a lobster may get entangled on the hose. This has never happened in the times that I have hoop netted. I’m trying to be legal at all times. Am I breaking the law by using this method? (Doug F.) A: Hoop nets are legal to use to take lobster, but traps are not. If hoop nets are modified in any manner that causes the lobster to become entangled or trapped, then the device ceases to be a hoop net and becomes a trap. The fabric used to make pantyhose is known to be an effective trap for lobsters and is not recommended for use on any part of a hoop net when it’s used to take lobster. Hoop nets may contain a bait container, but may in no way act to entangle or impede the movement of lobster while it tries to leave the net. If it does, then the device would be illegal, no matter what material is used to construct the bait container. This is from that carrie wilson lady from the DFG....just say'n! Make sure when dfg shows up...put'em on.....quickly...! __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

10-13-2012, 08:26 AM	#2
lowprofile #1 on fishstick's hitlist Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sea level Posts: 1,478	ah yi yi, so many laws... ill switch to old dew rags. __________________ MLPA- My Largest Poaching Area

10-13-2012, 09:14 AM	#3
vincentek9 MAYNEE-YAK Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: So Cal Posts: 533	panty hose is not used to trap a lobster. panty hose = elastic bait cage. if using a panty-hose to hold your bait is illegal... then so is using a bait cage. or zip tying your bait down. anyways. nice going! i did 3 pulls on a set of 6 nets. total of 1 bug (barely legal). i dont know what i'm doing wrong, but you must be doing it right. __________________

10-13-2012, 12:06 PM	#8
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	Went out to the secret spot last night. Got 7 lobsters in one hoop all in the 5-6 pound range. Actually I made one of the twin sister supermodels that was with me pull the nets. I wanted to save my energy for a later "feast" One supermodel.......that's so 80s.

10-13-2012, 12:11 PM	#9
Deamon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,972	Chris man you get around. Way to go on finding a quality bug spot. Enjoy the eats. Jim