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Old 09-04-2012, 01:11 PM   #1
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lol at the kid, but i definatly would not go out looking for WSB in the dark without a FF. riding the kelp and finding bait by birds and boats is one thing during the day but you really need that sonar to locate bait and submerged kelp at night if you cant just bring them to you.

as for the Whites... yes they're out there. the majority stay down low. i had 3 huge marks on my FF in 120-130ft of water. all hanging out together. they dwarfed the marks that we were calling YT by about 5X's. There's always whites and other sharks (blues, makos, soupfin, threshers, tigers, hammers etc) cruising though la jolla and i cant recall a report of an attack.
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:32 PM   #2
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as for the Whites... yes they're out there. the majority stay down low. i had 3 huge marks on my FF in 120-130ft of water. all hanging out together. they dwarfed the marks that we were calling YT by about 5X's. There's always whites and other sharks (blues, makos, soupfin, threshers, tigers, hammers etc) cruising though la jolla and i cant recall a report of an attack.
There are plenty of good sized sharks to create a FF image that is 5X's the size of even BIG yellowtail, i.e. 7-gill, thresher, mako, blues, etc. And many people do know that Great Whites do exist off of La Jolla.

My point is, this was a Great White, it was off of La Jolla, and there are many people who do not, and should know, they are regulars in that vicinity.

You sound a little like the guy who's willing to jump on the back of a Great White, because it's a puppy dog. Not for me, thanks.
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:40 PM   #3
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There are plenty of good sized sharks to create a FF image that is 5X's the size of even BIG yellowtail, i.e. 7-gill, thresher, mako, blues, etc. And many people do know that Great Whites do exist off of La Jolla.

My point is, this was a Great White, it was off of La Jolla, and there are many people who do not, and should know, they are regulars in that vicinity.

You sound a little like the guy who's willing to jump on the back of a Great White, because it's a puppy dog. Not for me, thanks.
lol, not on its back but i was about to jump in with a 9ft dusky we ran into at the 181. but i see your point and i wasn't trying to be a smart ass or come off as a douche.

but to throw out some knowledge, a 7 gill wont show up on a FF. due to the face it does not have a swim bladder and isn't very dense to give off a reading. some sharks, like whites will give off a reading though. but not as big as you'd expect.
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:54 PM   #4
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lol, not on its back but i was about to jump in with a 9ft dusky we ran into at the 181. but i see your point and i wasn't trying to be a smart ass or come off as a douche.

but to throw out some knowledge, a 7 gill wont show up on a FF. due to the face it does not have a swim bladder and isn't very dense to give off a reading. some sharks, like whites will give off a reading though. but not as big as you'd expect.
Hey, I didn't know this. Because a 7-gill doesn't have a swim bladder and isn't very dense, it won't show up on a fish finder? Very, very intersesting.

How does this explain squid?
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Hey, I didn't know this. Because a 7-gill doesn't have a swim bladder and isn't very dense, it won't show up on a fish finder? Very, very intersesting.

How does this explain squid?
usually you can see the egg sacks as a soft bottom over a hard bottom or sandy bottom. i'm not sure we actually see the squid themselves.
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I would never want to see the tax man in his own backyard, thank you. Always great to read your opinions and posts Aaron.You've jump started me on the bugging when I've hit some slow times as well. Good job!
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I would never want to see the tax man in his own backyard, thank you. Always great to read your opinions and posts Aaron.You've jump started me on the bugging when I've hit some slow times as well. Good job!
Thanks, Deamon, you're a kind thoughtful, man, my man. P.S. I hate the tax man, too
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usually you can see the egg sacks as a soft bottom over a hard bottom or sandy bottom. i'm not sure we actually see the squid themselves.
Yes you can meter squid, and I'm sure that you can meter the giant 7gill shark that's under you too...!
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First off thanks for the report.

Second, the swim bladder is what creates the tell tale arch seen on a sonar. Ultrasound does not get a return from air so a fish mark shows as an arch due to fish shape and swim bladder. With this thought process you will still see a seven gill shark, it just won't appear as an arch. The same way we see structure on a finder.

Thanks again Aaron and Julie for the timeliness.
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i had 3 huge marks on my FF in 120-130ft of water. all hanging out together. they dwarfed the marks that we were calling YT by about 5X's.

That's pretty funny. I thought sharks didn't have swim bladders, which is why I thought you CAN'T see them on your fish finders....I mean don't fish finders only work because they send out sound waves that bounce off the AIR in the swim bladder of teleosts (bony fish)???

There's always whites and other sharks (blues, makos, soupfin, threshers, tigers, hammers etc) cruising though la jolla and i cant recall a report of an attack.

Tiger sharks huh? Are you kidding or what?
I have seen a hamerhead in La Jolla, once. But always? I DON'T think so.......
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Old 09-06-2012, 06:47 PM   #11
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I think it was 4 years ago, when the water was warm like this year. I got circled by a BIG hammerhead. It was definitely taking a look at me it came closer on the second circle. Pretty cool sight. Looked to be bigger than my Malibu 2. That was the same year that I took a pic of JP with a dorado off the nw corner.
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