SAVE CALIFORNIA FISHING

[bellcon]

Originally Posted by tacmik

Before everyone starts talking about banning members for not contributing money. They should take a moment to consider the ramifications of this action.
1 Where does it stop. i.e. we are having a tournament. if you are not there, you are banned.

2. At this time, maybe there are members who cannot even aford an extra five dollars. i.e. no job, trying to make ends meet. put food on the table and maybe, just maybe, buy their kids something to put under the tree if they could afford a tree in the first place.

3. How do you know that the person does not belong to several sites and may contribute thru another venue. I did this in the fight and was banned from another site as they said I didn't contribute. I e-mailed them back and explained I did support the cause but did it thru another site. I was told for a cash donation, I would be reinstated. I don't believe this is the way to go. Who has the right to dictate to others.

BWE has never banned anyone for not participating in the fight against the MLPA.
BWE has banned members for being assholes, this is their site, they make the rules and the judgements. In other words they have the right to "dictate to others", and they do, be it editing a post or the rare banning of a member.

Having said that,
I find it almost impossible to believe someone who fishes can't afford 5 bucks a month to protect that right. Money is tight for many, but 5 bucks?
5 bucks is a tip at the bait barge, 5 bucks is a couple quality hooks, 5 bucks barely gets me enough diesel to leave my driveway.

I will say the whole bronze-silver-gold etc. is silly to me, no ones business how much or little you give, how much you put in the collection plate is up to you.

To me it is about supporting an idea that has the potential to have some serious impact on our ability to fight the MLPA and future attacks on our rights to fish. Because there WILL BE future attacks!!, this chit is only the beginning.

If anyone cannot afford the $5 at this time, just copy the logo and put it up, this was never intended to be an idea that creates division among anglers, quite the opposite, it is a simple way for us to pool our monies to fight a VERY well funded enemy.


I saw a great line yesterday:
"you need a thousand people pissed off, Just to balance out one dollar that a politician raises"
(and if those thousand people can donate just $5, even better)

[jorluivil]

Originally Posted by bellcon

I will say the whole bronze-silver-gold etc. is silly to me, no ones business how much or little you give, how much you put in the collection plate is up to you.

That's the reason mine says SUPPORTER and not bronze, silver, gold, platinum, titanium, aluminum, plastic or paper.

[bubblehide]

I guess I'll go ahead and chime in. There is only one manner in which I donate monetary funds, and that is anonymously. Sure I've done it openly in the past, but frankly I got sick and tired of the constant mailers for more and more, needless to say the selling of my information to every registered non-profit. So a long time ago, I said to myself never again to open donations to any group.

I've been active in the communities I've lived my whole adult life, in numerous ways, from starting a youth horseback riding program, to adopting aging veterans i.e., regular visits. I don't give of myself for the recognition, social acceptance, nor any other self-interest reason; I simply do it because it's the right thing to do. And, from my perspective, Jim is spot on, the "signature" practice is divisive, something WE fisherman can't possibly benefit from.

[JPSURF]

[GregAndrew]

Call me Mr. divisive. I am sure that my $120 a year (that is 250 pennys a week) is going to break the back of the Blue Haired Lagunatics. So I have a right to feel superior about it. (insert definition of sarcasm here).

[PAL]

Getting the word out - and encouraging involvement - has been a constant challenge during the MLPA struggle. These logos are the most effective tool I've yet seen employed.

During the enormous community effort it took to retain the better part of La Jolla, the value of showing your friends where you stand was demonstrated. When we held roll calls, more kayak anglers and free divers attended those miserable meetings.

The public's access to the state's natural bounty is at stake. It is a political battle. It won't be over as of Jan 1. Ultimately, anglers need unity, but it won't happen without a concerted effort to reach those who are unaware of the problem. These logos are an unobtrusive way to accomplish that goal.

[bigbarrels]

done! Worthy cause for sure and maybe it may help......who knows

[bellcon]

Originally Posted by PAL

Getting the word out - and encouraging involvement - has been a constant challenge during the MLPA struggle. These logos are the most effective tool I've yet seen employed.

During the enormous community effort it took to retain the better part of La Jolla, the value of showing your friends where you stand was demonstrated. When we held roll calls, more kayak anglers and free divers attended those miserable meetings.

The public's access to the state's natural bounty is at stake. It is a political battle. It won't be over as of Jan 1. Ultimately, anglers need unity, but it won't happen without a concerted effort to reach those who are unaware of the problem. These logos are an unobtrusive way to accomplish that goal.

Thanks Paul
Now that's a stamp of approval from someone who knows!
Big thanks again for all you have done to keep us informed and to guide us along in the fight against the MLPA.

Also
Tyler, Chris (Holy Mackerel) and Billy, the BWE crew of MLPA fight leaders!
We would be dealing with a lot larger MPAs if it wasn't for all your hard work, "Getting the word out - and encouraging involvement "

Merry Christmas to you guys and thanks!


Ignore the haters... somethings will never change