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Old 12-08-2014, 04:27 PM   #1
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late post long beach lobsters

fished for halis in the morning. landed 2 legals near belmont pier.
fished for bugs when it got dark. 16 legals and 20+ shorts in 4 hours. the biggest 2 females were released to repopulate.

on a side note. got back on land and started to rip the tails off. the coast guard yanked their boat out of the water, came up to us, and asked what we were doing. we told them that we're only keeping the tails. we also asked if we could throw the heads in the ocean so fish can eat it and it isn't wasted... coast guards said "shit! i'll take them home and make some soup!" nice to now that the heads are going to be used. they have alot of meat in them.

1st pic is one of our med bugs next to a big 7-8lb female.
2nd pic is our total score of legals (we tossed back 2 after we took the pic)

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Old 12-08-2014, 05:00 PM   #2
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Are you trolling for a reaction here or are you serious....

You cant tail your lobsters at the ramp...thats just a little bit illegal....obvious the coast guard guys didnt know.
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:38 PM   #3
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Don't worry about Tony. He's just jealous...
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Old 12-08-2014, 09:48 PM   #4
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I'm sorry Tony, I guess the parking lot of the launch ramp doesn't count as the shore huh. Damn, I need to read my regulations. Good thing you know the rules!

Next time, you should probably try and Google something to make sure you're right before you post a reply. Or else you might get some boater upset. Then he'll see you at the sewer and test how well you can keep your PA upright when he throws some wakes.

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Old 12-08-2014, 10:16 PM   #5
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For info this is directly from the CA department of fish and game page 50 of their online booklet found here:
https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.a...22&inline=true


I've highlighted the section that applies for anyone to interpret in their own way




Congrats on the haul. If you ever have an open spot on your boat, I'll gladly pitch in for fuel and parking at the launch

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Old 12-08-2014, 10:55 PM   #6
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For info this is directly from the CA department of fish and game page 50 of their online booklet found here:
https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.a...22&inline=true


I've highlighted the section that applies for anyone to interpret in their own way



Man that's a broad description. It should really be more specific.
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Old 12-09-2014, 03:44 AM   #7
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I'm sorry Tony, I guess the parking lot of the launch ramp doesn't count as the shore huh. Damn, I need to read my regulations. Good thing you know the rules!



Next time, you should probably try and Google something to make sure you're right before you post a reply. Or else you might get some boater upset. Then he'll see you at the sewer and test how well you can keep your PA upright when he throws some wakes.





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Even if this is not true (which it looks like it is) it's still funny 😁
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:15 AM   #8
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Nice haul!
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:21 AM   #9
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I'm sorry Tony, I guess the parking lot of the launch ramp doesn't count as the shore huh. Damn, I need to read my regulations. Good thing you know the rules!

Next time, you should probably try and Google something to make sure you're right before you post a reply. Or else you might get some boater upset. Then he'll see you at the sewer and test how well you can keep your PA upright when he throws some wakes.
That little hooping booklet that says its legal to tail lobsters on shore or launch ramp is wrong. If you want to continue to do so, go right ahead. When you get caught you can try to explain to the dfg officer that its legal and you read the "rules" in this book. Trust me you will get a ticket.

Oooh did i upset you are you threatening me?
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:23 AM   #10
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Even if this is not true (which it looks like it is) it's still funny 😁


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Old 12-09-2014, 06:43 AM   #11
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Sarcasm... Tony can you pull a quote from the DFG website to show what he did was illegal. Was what he quoted not out of the DFG book? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'd actually like to know what the law is.
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:16 AM   #12
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booklet

I believe that booklet is an older print...that was done before the regulation was changed. The Lobster regs were reworked a few years ago to define the sizes and style of the hoop nets and I believe the reg about detailing was changed at that time...
Tony is right...do not de-tail your lobsters until you are home. Without a carapace there is no way for the DFW to determine if it's a legal bug!
Info in a booklet and info from the regulations is two different things...I'd trust the regs!
DFW wardens can stop you at anytime on or off the water. I've had them pull me over as I was leaving outside the parking lot on a public street.
Take the bugs home, de-tail them, and then throw the legs in the microwave and make popcorn lobster.
Taking photos of over limit and posting on a web board also isn't the brightest move. "All lobsters shall be measured immediately upon being brought to the surface of the water, and any undersize lobsters shall be released immediately into the water." No sense being over-limit just for a dumb photo.
WOW...I guess I better not kayak next to Tony anymore...since he's upsetting boaters...?
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:56 AM   #13
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I'm sorry Tony, I guess the parking lot of the launch ramp doesn't count as the shore huh. Damn, I need to read my regulations. Good thing you know the rules!

Next time, you should probably try and Google something to make sure you're right before you post a reply. Or else you might get some boater upset. Then he'll see you at the sewer and test how well you can keep your PA upright when he throws some wakes.
Why would you openly threaten someone that is trying to keep help you out? I won't bother checking Google but I'm sure that your comments could be considered assault. The next time someone gives you advise or says you're doing something wrong question that persons knowledge before you go and threaten them..................that sh*t is not cool.

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I fish with Tony 99% of the time so if that boater decides to cause a wake that flips us I can assure you that he'll also be dealing with me. That is not a threat, its a fact.
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Sarcasm... Tony can you pull a quote from the DFG website to show what he did was illegal. Was what he quoted not out of the DFG book? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'd actually like to know what the law is.
I think that pamphlet is the same one that is mailed to the hoop netters by the DFG each year, I wouldn't trust it.
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I think that pamphlet is the same one that is mailed to the hoop netters by the DFG each year, I wouldn't trust it.

Ah, okay. No sense in getting a ticket if it's not needed. Doesn't seem like a huge benefit to dispose of lobster heads at the launch ramp. I can see the the Perks of possibly filleting a couple big fish there if you don't own a dumpster, but lobster heads can't take up that much room. Benefit of the doubt was given to the OP by me in that I assumed he was not alone for the number of lobsters he had taken. If he was alone he obviously is over limit....
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Sarcasm... Tony can you pull a quote from the DFG website to show what he did was illegal. Was what he quoted not out of the DFG book? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'd actually like to know what the law is.
Directly from the DFG website.

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/marine/faq.asp

Q. How many hoop nets can I use on my boat?

A. According to CCR T14, Section 29.80(b) not more than 5 baited hoop nets may be fished by a person, not to exceed a total of 10 hoop nets fished from any vessel, regardless of how many people are aboard.

Q. How many hoop nets can I use while fishing from a public pier?

A. You may use up to two appliances (rod and reel, hoop net, etc.) while fishing from a public pier - two rods and reels, or 1 rod and reel and 1 hoop net, or 2 hoop nets. Reference CCR T14, Section 28.65(b)

Q. May I tail my legally harvested lobsters while still at sea or at the boat launch ramp?

A. No. Spiny lobsters shall be kept in a whole, measurable condition, until being prepared for immediate consumption. Reference CCR T14, Section 29.90(e)


Q. I heard about a Lobster Fishery Management Plan that is currently underway. Where can I find more information?

A. Visit the California Spiny Lobster Fishery Management Plan web page.
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Hmmm, that is pretty clear cut. Right out of the book...
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