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Old 11-05-2009, 04:48 PM   #1
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One more time




We need everyone at the BRTF meeting November 10th.

The sky is falling again.

All kidding aside, this will be the meeting the BRTF recommends the prefered map of closures. In the other finished regions, every time the BRTF recommends a map, it gets approved. They were supposed to decide October 22, but ran out of time. Now they will decide on November 10th.

There will be a public comment session at the BRTF meeting on November 10th. . Don't know what time public comment will be.

November 10, 2009
9:30 a.m.
Sheraton Gateway Hotel
6101 West Century Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90045

Originally there wasn't going to be one. They are going to go based on precedent. After they make a motion on the FINAL map, we have one last chance for specific comments. This will be your only chance to comment on the specific recommended map.

This is not the time to talk about how much the process sucks. This is the time to give one last pitch. They specifically want to hear arguments and reason they haven't heard before. Any new information you may have.




From a Surf Rider Board:
http://www.fluidgroove.net/phpBB3/vi...hp?f=19&t=1110

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BRTF will introduce a new array for proposed closures on the in a few days. The short sighted fishermen tried to cheat society out of a win-win resolution by perpetuating their unsustainable practices We are able to re-introduce closures that truly benefit mother ocean.

The new proposal is focused on compromise, would establish southern California’s coast as a marine reserve or no take zone from Torry Pines to South La Jolla, West Point Dum, west Palos Verdes, South Point Loma. This proposal meets The Science Advisory Team (SAT), the panel providing guidance on how to best design an effective MPA network to optimize habitat diversity while minimizing socio Economic Impact. See attached map.

I heard this from a friend at Stanford Univ.


Tom Hall.
If true this means not everything is above the table . Imagine that. We need to be there to hold people accountable.

Every time there has been a poor turnout by fishermen, big rulings have gone against us. We cannot afford that this late in the game.
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Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps.

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Old 11-05-2009, 04:54 PM   #2
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Ramp it up guys...

Let's see if they tactfully place the Public Comment period in the day time again before 2:30pm so they can bus the kids in again.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:02 PM   #3
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Let's saddle up kayakfishermen. Spearos will be there.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:04 PM   #4
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More info to follow.

Just wanted to get this out there as soon as possible because I just got it.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:04 PM   #5
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I will be there.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:08 PM   #6
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I have to take another fook'n day off work for this chit.

Of course I will be there.

Now that I am publicly proclaiming it, I can't call in sick though .
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:50 PM   #7
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Roll Call

1. Tyler
2. Greg
3. Zenspearo
4. Billy V
5. Jason
6. Mark Olsen
7. Josh Rider
8. Mark Pierpont
9. Jeff Kreiger
10. Jim Sammons
11. Brent
12. Jeff (So Cal Shaggy)
13. ????????


Come on guys.

Squid bite at LAX . Let's do this.

Anyone know where to grab beer after? We'll need it.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:53 PM   #8
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Add Jeff and Erika to the list Tyler.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:57 PM   #9
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Add Jeff and Erika to the list Tyler.
Got it. And thanks to both of you for doing so much for our cause.


1. Tyler
2. Greg
3. Zenspearo
4. Billy V
5. Jason
6. Mark Olsen
7. Josh Rider
8. Mark Pierpont
9. Jeff Kreiger
10. Jim Sammons
11. Brent
12. Jeff (So Cal Shaggy)
13. Erika
14. ????????/
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Old 11-05-2009, 06:12 PM   #10
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"BRTF will introduce a new array for proposed closures on the in a few days. The short sighted fishermen tried to cheat society out of a win-win resolution by perpetuating their unsustainable practices We are able to re-introduce closures that truly benefit mother ocean."

Aw, he must be a sweet fella...

Now go buy your fish from a plastic wrap. Cheat society?

Are you phookin' kidding me?

Unsustainable practices?

How about money spent for more wardens, how about money spent for more artificial reefs, how about slot limits, how about money spent to boost population, ever hear of the WSB Hatchery Program...

Seems they have spent more $ trying to shut the understaffed, underfunded, and unenforceable fishery management down rather than to find ways to make it a sustainable fishery...

Sorry guys, someone had to say it.

I'll try to make it...I can't believe this nonsense...
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Old 11-05-2009, 06:17 PM   #11
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count me in!!!

"mother ocean" WTF!!! these guys are religious fanatics folks. everyone better realize with the beliefs they have, this is not even close to the end. they will keep coming, and coming, and coming, and coming, and coming, and coming and coming until every square inch of water is closed to fishing.

welcome to the soviet union.
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Old 11-05-2009, 06:58 PM   #12
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Ramp it up guys...

Let's see if they tactfully place the Public Comment period in the day time again before 2:30pm so they can bus the kids in again.
It will be more exploitation of children.
Bring your left over Halloween candy to feed the kiddies.
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That guy TOM HALL's Post should get your back up. Lets show them weak, brainwashed servile what real organization can produce.
See you there Tom.
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:06 PM   #13
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I am in

I see a stage being set for some nice civil disobedience
sometime down the road when this chapter is over
depending on how bad they shaft us...

We get about 200 kayaks to launch at one of the closed sites...
and we go out and worship "Mother Ocean"


come and get us


A good man will bend over backwards to keep the peace
These people are trying to get us to bend over forward
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:10 PM   #14
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"The short sighted fishermen tried to cheat society out of a win-win resolution by perpetuating their unsustainable practices "

That quote's got my blood boiling!!!! You said it right Tman, no need for apologies. I'll be there, gloves off, but well behaved
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:31 PM   #15
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I'm in.

"The short sighted fishermen tried to cheat society out of a win-win resolution by perpetuating their unsustainable practices " This was some f-tard in Jacksonville Fl that couldn't carry my nut sack.

Most of the Surfrider members I know are fishermen also. We helped influence Surfrider's position regarding San Diego. I wish they had more members in Malibu.
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:07 PM   #16
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Definitely a Clash of ideas going on...

Reminds me of a song from my youth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDlwue0F9HY

May it enlighten some of the younger folks...Clay knows the song...and a bunch more...
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:24 AM   #17
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I like what Don said,lets fish one of their red zones. Count me in I'll be there.
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:17 AM   #18
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Well I am jammed at work, my boss will be on vacation, but YEAH I AM IN 100%! So much for extra days off at thanksgiving........


SERIOUSLY WE NEED EVERYBODY !!!!
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:06 AM   #19
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This is THE meeting. Everyone thought the last one was it. The last one was the most important, until they put off the decision until November 10th.

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Old 11-06-2009, 07:37 AM   #20
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