The IPA maps - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

tylerdurden · 11-11-2009, 06:39 PM

Since everyone is asking exactly what got recommended, here are the IPA maps in the disputed regions. I only put up maps in kayak interested areas. This is not the whole array of closures. I didn't put up the Laguna map since I don't know the area that well and I think they moved the boundaries a little bit and the marine map version isn't updated yet.

All this information is unofficial. Just what I understood from the meeting. I hope this clears up any confusion about what exactly was proposed.

Doom, I mean Dume:
No useful H&L in the blue. They changed the boundary between the blue and red a little bit, but it doesn't really matter since no useful fishing is allowed for us anyways.

PV:

Swamis/Encinitas, no H&L fishing in this one.

LJ

The south reserve starts at about Winamar Street at Wind and Sea, and almost goes to Crystal pier. The blue area is supposed to allow pelagic take.

The blue area along Blacks Beach allows bait to be caught only.

Literally cutting the Scripps Pier in half

For comparison, the old and new LJ boundaries:

so cal shaggy · 11-11-2009, 07:26 PM

Laguna got royally thrown under the bus to make up what they did not take in PV

Tman · 11-11-2009, 07:51 PM

Thanks for that Tyler

LJ N of Scripps, we get phooked...any guys who fish the area care to respond?

Looking at Swamis N, bug trappers get phooked.

Plan to fish Cardiff? Drag the fish S to the 'free' space.

LJ S ? Only to a certain spot, they do manage to wipe out the shallow water spots.

Incredible. Let's see how they enforce the regs at night during bug season in the shallow areas that produce the best at S LJ/N PB.

There has got to be some sort of compromise in those areas, and a compromise N of Scripps. If the boaters can't get in tight to those areas and only yakkers and spearos can, clarify then. Make amends.

Yakkers and spearos will not damage/interfere/compromise/affect the natural habitat...and will not disrupt. Our catch is limited to our capacity.

We need to and will inform the DFG of this...

Afran · 11-11-2009, 09:04 PM

My be-loved La Jolla & Scripps. Where I have spent most of my life in the waters.

Sad day.

Keep fishing guys.

tylerdurden · 11-11-2009, 09:44 PM

Which one of those Laguna shapes did they take? The one further to the south I thought?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afran

My be-loved La Jolla & Scripps. Where I have spent most of my life in the waters.

Sad day.

All the best shore fishing too. We can still lobby the DFG commission to allow shore fishing as I beleive the level of protection would still be unchanged. I think I forgot to mention shore fishing in my public comments for this area.

lambadmin · 11-11-2009, 09:55 PM

tragedy

so cal shaggy · 11-12-2009, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerdurden

Which one of those Laguna shapes did they take? The one further to the south I thought?

They did the boundary is at the southern end of Crystal Cove and stretches through the entire of Laguna so they got what they wanted an end to end closure

Royak · 11-12-2009, 06:48 PM

[QUOTE=[I]Tman;47173]LJ N of Scripps, we get phooked...any guys who fish the area care to respond?[/I]QUOTE]

I fish there a lot, mostly for quality YT. Usually on my skiff, but sometimes on my kayak. Bait only?! So we paddle (or power) to the Scripps pier to make bait, then go -- how many miles? -- to use it. What ever happened to the "green" agenda (e.g. saving fuel and energy)? This is bullshit and serves no rational purpose.

LORENZ · 11-18-2009, 08:22 AM

You guys use a langauge that's all your own. Talk like a normal guy and the normal guy would be more prone to help out.

Blue means
Red means
H&L is

Holy Mackerel · 11-18-2009, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LORENZ

You guys use a langauge that's all your own. Talk like a normal guy and the normal guy would be more prone to help out.

Blue means
Red means
H&L is

where the hell you been all year?

BLUE = STATE MARINE CONSERVATION AREA (SMCA) limited-specific take

RED = STATE MARINE RESERVE (SMR) NO TAKE

H&L = HOOK AND LINE

11-11-2009, 06:39 PM	#1
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	The IPA maps Since everyone is asking exactly what got recommended, here are the IPA maps in the disputed regions. I only put up maps in kayak interested areas. This is not the whole array of closures. I didn't put up the Laguna map since I don't know the area that well and I think they moved the boundaries a little bit and the marine map version isn't updated yet. All this information is unofficial. Just what I understood from the meeting. I hope this clears up any confusion about what exactly was proposed. Doom, I mean Dume: No useful H&L in the blue. They changed the boundary between the blue and red a little bit, but it doesn't really matter since no useful fishing is allowed for us anyways. PV: Swamis/Encinitas, no H&L fishing in this one. LJ The south reserve starts at about Winamar Street at Wind and Sea, and almost goes to Crystal pier. The blue area is supposed to allow pelagic take. The blue area along Blacks Beach allows bait to be caught only. Literally cutting the Scripps Pier in half For comparison, the old and new LJ boundaries: __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th. Last edited by tylerdurden; 11-11-2009 at 09:52 PM.

11-11-2009, 07:26 PM	#2
so cal shaggy Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Anaheim Posts: 85	Laguna got royally thrown under the bus to make up what they did not take in PV __________________ Thanks, Jeff

11-11-2009, 07:51 PM	#3
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Thanks for that Tyler LJ N of Scripps, we get phooked...any guys who fish the area care to respond? Looking at Swamis N, bug trappers get phooked. Plan to fish Cardiff? Drag the fish S to the 'free' space. LJ S ? Only to a certain spot, they do manage to wipe out the shallow water spots. Incredible. Let's see how they enforce the regs at night during bug season in the shallow areas that produce the best at S LJ/N PB. There has got to be some sort of compromise in those areas, and a compromise N of Scripps. If the boaters can't get in tight to those areas and only yakkers and spearos can, clarify then. Make amends. Yakkers and spearos will not damage/interfere/compromise/affect the natural habitat...and will not disrupt. Our catch is limited to our capacity. We need to and will inform the DFG of this... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

11-11-2009, 09:04 PM	#4
Afran fishy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 219	My be-loved La Jolla & Scripps. Where I have spent most of my life in the waters. Sad day. Keep fishing guys. __________________ warbaits.com Instagram @warbaits

11-11-2009, 09:55 PM	#6
lambadmin Spam Sanitation Dept Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,374	tragedy __________________

11-12-2009, 06:48 PM	#8
Royak Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: La Jolla Posts: 46	Going Green (Not) [QUOTE=[I]Tman;47173]LJ N of Scripps, we get phooked...any guys who fish the area care to respond?[/I]QUOTE] I fish there a lot, mostly for quality YT. Usually on my skiff, but sometimes on my kayak. Bait only?! So we paddle (or power) to the Scripps pier to make bait, then go -- how many miles? -- to use it. What ever happened to the "green" agenda (e.g. saving fuel and energy)? This is bullshit and serves no rational purpose.

11-18-2009, 08:22 AM	#9
LORENZ Junior Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 19	You guys use a langauge that's all your own. Talk like a normal guy and the normal guy would be more prone to help out. Blue means Red means H&L is