Hoopers,Think Ahead! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

T Bone · 08-31-2014, 05:50 AM

Tuna is oily and works great.An axe would work good.I have a meat cleaver that I use.I am going to load up five cages and freeze them too,

Saba Slayer · 08-31-2014, 08:12 AM

I really like mixing up the bait in my tubes or bait cages...I'll mix Macks, and Tuna bloodlines with Bonita heads and trimmings, then I usually pour some additives on the bait cages once they are in the ziplock bags. Then I'll freeze them and leave them semi-frozen until I drop them. I really think the scent/additives work...I've done some tests with scent only with the GoPro camera and it works. With scent only the critters won't stay in the net but they will go in there to check it out.

Menhadden oil is good, so is Salmon oil, although its pricy...this Crab and Shrimp Fuel by Pautzke is affordable and it works. It's about $10 a bottle.

Save those tuna heads and bloodlines...there were a few Skipjack in the counts the last week...if you can get your hands on any of these bloody Tunas...you'll be on your way to a limit of Bugs.

roadx · 08-31-2014, 08:32 AM

check, froze whole yellow fin tuna carcass for bug bait.
last year was a very good year just using mackerel and sardines. sometimes little catfood.
always fun and relaxing.

SoCalCJ · 08-31-2014, 09:32 PM

Hi Jim / Saba Slayer,

Curious on you insight as to the warmer water affecting the crawl this year? Do you think it has any impact? Will we have to be setting deep?

Thanks

Saba Slayer · 09-01-2014, 06:46 AM

This warm water year should have the Bugs up in shallow water at the start of the season up until about November when they should move deeper. The season before last, SD kicked butt on the counts in the Bay. It was a warm water year...lets hope that the Bay is as active this season. Almost 21% of the total catch was from SD Bay and Zuniga Jetty.

Location # Location Name Percent of Catch
1 – 18 - San Diego Bay 16%
2 - 1 - Catalina Island 12.4%
3 – 57 - Pt. Vicente up to King Harbor 8.0%
4 – 17 - Zuniga Jetty 5.4%
5 – 64 - Santa Monica up to Malibu Pt. 5.0%
6 – 3 - Santa Cruz Island 4.7%
7 – 61 - King Harbor up to Santa Monica 3.8%

Warm Water = Bugs crawling and eating...

Good Luck this Season!

mclanea · 09-01-2014, 06:54 AM

I've watched some videos on how to do it... but as a rookie would you guys suggest taking a couple dry runs to get used to managing the gear? Feels like it'd be better to learn how to do that in the daylight than at night.

Hunters Pa · 09-01-2014, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mclanea

I've watched some videos on how to do it... but as a rookie would you guys suggest taking a couple dry runs to get used to managing the gear? Feels like it'd be better to learn how to do that in the daylight than at night.

Keep an eye on when Jim "Saba Slayer" Salazar will be doing his seminars.

Dry run? why not catch some crab while you are practicing?

Von_Vaughn · 09-01-2014, 08:32 AM

When you pull them out of the net where are you keeping them? A buddy wants to try hoop and skin diving for bugs this season. I just dont know how long they can keep or where to keep them until I get them into a boiling pot. Also one forum recommends ripping the tails off and just keeping those in a bucket.

MissileTM · 09-01-2014, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclanea

I've watched some videos on how to do it... but as a rookie would you guys suggest taking a couple dry runs to get used to managing the gear? Feels like it'd be better to learn how to do that in the daylight than at night.

Read Jim's book. He knows his stuff!

08-31-2014, 05:50 AM	#1
T Bone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 871	Tuna is oily and works great.An axe would work good.I have a meat cleaver that I use.I am going to load up five cages and freeze them too, __________________ Barachit Baralah,Elohim-In the beginning,God-Genesis 1:1 "Who among you,if your son asked for a fish would give them a serpent " Jesus Matt. 7:10

08-31-2014, 08:12 AM	#2
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,837	Bait I really like mixing up the bait in my tubes or bait cages...I'll mix Macks, and Tuna bloodlines with Bonita heads and trimmings, then I usually pour some additives on the bait cages once they are in the ziplock bags. Then I'll freeze them and leave them semi-frozen until I drop them. I really think the scent/additives work...I've done some tests with scent only with the GoPro camera and it works. With scent only the critters won't stay in the net but they will go in there to check it out. Menhadden oil is good, so is Salmon oil, although its pricy...this Crab and Shrimp Fuel by Pautzke is affordable and it works. It's about $10 a bottle. Save those tuna heads and bloodlines...there were a few Skipjack in the counts the last week...if you can get your hands on any of these bloody Tunas...you'll be on your way to a limit of Bugs. __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer

08-31-2014, 08:32 AM	#3
roadx . Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,155	check, froze whole yellow fin tuna carcass for bug bait. last year was a very good year just using mackerel and sardines. sometimes little catfood. always fun and relaxing. __________________

09-01-2014, 06:46 AM	#5
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,837	warm water This warm water year should have the Bugs up in shallow water at the start of the season up until about November when they should move deeper. The season before last, SD kicked butt on the counts in the Bay. It was a warm water year...lets hope that the Bay is as active this season. Almost 21% of the total catch was from SD Bay and Zuniga Jetty. Location # Location Name Percent of Catch 1 – 18 - San Diego Bay 16% 2 - 1 - Catalina Island 12.4% 3 – 57 - Pt. Vicente up to King Harbor 8.0% 4 – 17 - Zuniga Jetty 5.4% 5 – 64 - Santa Monica up to Malibu Pt. 5.0% 6 – 3 - Santa Cruz Island 4.7% 7 – 61 - King Harbor up to Santa Monica 3.8% Warm Water = Bugs crawling and eating... Good Luck this Season! __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer Last edited by Saba Slayer; 09-01-2014 at 07:42 AM.

08-31-2014, 09:32 PM	#4
SoCalCJ Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 126	Hi Jim / Saba Slayer, Curious on you insight as to the warmer water affecting the crawl this year? Do you think it has any impact? Will we have to be setting deep? Thanks

09-01-2014, 06:54 AM	#6
mclanea Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Rolando Posts: 85	I've watched some videos on how to do it... but as a rookie would you guys suggest taking a couple dry runs to get used to managing the gear? Feels like it'd be better to learn how to do that in the daylight than at night.

09-01-2014, 08:32 AM	#8
Von_Vaughn Junior Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 7	When you pull them out of the net where are you keeping them? A buddy wants to try hoop and skin diving for bugs this season. I just dont know how long they can keep or where to keep them until I get them into a boiling pot. Also one forum recommends ripping the tails off and just keeping those in a bucket.