The latest MLPA Betrayal - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Ocean-Angler · 03-22-2010, 07:51 PM

I knew this was going to happen.
I was trying to think outside of the box for this whole situation, trying to find some legal angle to work, and or a way or means of promoting the idea of artificial kelp beds, and bring these methods, and ideas to the public, rather then just following standard procedure, but everyone trashed my outside the box methods of thinking, so I just backed up ..
wow, this is just too bad

GregAndrew · 03-22-2010, 08:05 PM

Every time that someone came up with logical ideas to reduce the number and size of MPAs, they would just say that they would not consider those types of ideas, or they would find a group that would say it would be catastrophic to do so.

No limit on the take of BRTF members!!

Billy V · 03-22-2010, 08:46 PM

This is how its going to work...

The BRTF and the DFG Majority didn't pay any mind to our wants, and needs. They insulted the majority of us who gave alot of our time to work toward an amicable solution.

For that - they can expect the same. Nothing.

Tman · 03-22-2010, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregAndrew

No limit on the take of BRTF members!!

Just remember, bury the heads in the garden...

That way you can enjoy narrow minded self righteous heads of lettuce come fruition of your labor!

This chit is too easy...

PAL · 03-23-2010, 01:54 PM

The situation is definitely grim. It makes me ill to say it, but the BRTF considers that they left us anything at all at La Jolla to be generous. That's what we got from this debacle, by flooding meeting after meeting. I have no doubt we would have lost every last inch of LJ otherwise.

One important clarification. I still see a lot of confusion between the DFG and Fish and Game Commission. They are different things. The DFG takes our license money, enforces regulations via the warden force, and has biologists in the field.

The Fish and Commission is a set of 5 political appointees that sets the state's fish and game regulations, including bag limits, seasons, and where MLPA closures will be sited.

Our anger should be aimed at the BRTF and the F&G Commission. Most DFG staffers inlcuding the wardens are opposed to unfunded mandates, and the theft of public resources portrayed as environmentalism. Their professional association is publicly anti-MLPA.

Sherm · 03-23-2010, 02:28 PM

Good to know the difference. Thanks again Paul.

stairman · 03-23-2010, 02:43 PM

Just your government looking out for you.....just like on sunday night! I think I need a IPA but i'm gonna go to the frig for mine....

vote the assholes out no matter what party!

03-23-2010, 02:43 PM	#7
stairman Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84	ahahahahahah Just your government looking out for you.....just like on sunday night! I think I need a IPA but i'm gonna go to the frig for mine.... vote the assholes out no matter what party!

03-22-2010, 07:51 PM	#1
Ocean-Angler Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 52	I knew this was going to happen. I was trying to think outside of the box for this whole situation, trying to find some legal angle to work, and or a way or means of promoting the idea of artificial kelp beds, and bring these methods, and ideas to the public, rather then just following standard procedure, but everyone trashed my outside the box methods of thinking, so I just backed up .. wow, this is just too bad

03-22-2010, 08:05 PM	#2
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	Every time that someone came up with logical ideas to reduce the number and size of MPAs, they would just say that they would not consider those types of ideas, or they would find a group that would say it would be catastrophic to do so. No limit on the take of BRTF members!!

03-22-2010, 08:46 PM	#3
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	This is how its going to work... The BRTF and the DFG Majority didn't pay any mind to our wants, and needs. They insulted the majority of us who gave alot of our time to work toward an amicable solution. For that - they can expect the same. Nothing.

03-23-2010, 01:54 PM	#5
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	The situation is definitely grim. It makes me ill to say it, but the BRTF considers that they left us anything at all at La Jolla to be generous. That's what we got from this debacle, by flooding meeting after meeting. I have no doubt we would have lost every last inch of LJ otherwise. One important clarification. I still see a lot of confusion between the DFG and Fish and Game Commission. They are different things. The DFG takes our license money, enforces regulations via the warden force, and has biologists in the field. The Fish and Commission is a set of 5 political appointees that sets the state's fish and game regulations, including bag limits, seasons, and where MLPA closures will be sited. Our anger should be aimed at the BRTF and the F&G Commission. Most DFG staffers inlcuding the wardens are opposed to unfunded mandates, and the theft of public resources portrayed as environmentalism. Their professional association is publicly anti-MLPA.

03-23-2010, 02:28 PM	#6
Sherm Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 490	Good to know the difference. Thanks again Paul.