You're Getting Screwed, Don't Just Sit There! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Billy V · 09-28-2009, 10:50 AM

Here it is for the record.
This is the group 3 Reserve Proposal for Scripps Pier, and heading North.
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San Diego-Scripps Coastal SMCA 73136 South Mainland North: 32 53'
South: 32 52'
East: MHTL
West: -117 16.4' (Tenth of a minute
line that anchors at Point La Jolla.)
SMCA High
The take of all living marine resources is prohibited except the
recreational take of coastal pelagic finfish by dip net.
F^ck Me!

When was the Last Time You Caught a Pelagic Fish in a Dip Net ? They have disrespected Us All. Don't let them get away with it.

Designation is not intended to impede pier maintenance or research
activities, scientific collection by SIO/UCSD, the Southwest Fisheries Science
Center and Birch Aquarium or laboratory tank ocean water intake and discharge activities by these entities.
So the Scripps employees get to Fish and Dump Crap in these waters, but we Can Not!

Start Preparing Your Responses for the Oct 21 Meeting, and Sign up to Roll Call.
We need to know who we can count on to be there.

tylerdurden · 09-28-2009, 05:54 PM

For clarity

Coastal Pelagic = bait fish. Mac, sardine, chovy...

Pelagic = yt, thresher, wsb...

Coastal pelagic and pelagic are different under the definitions in this process.

Basically we are getting screwed. At least they don't expect us to catch yt with a dipnet though

.

Toad Patrol · 09-28-2009, 07:48 PM

Billy, sounds like you just realized you're playing poker with card sharks.
We are being played so bad. By some well paid pros.
I'm just an unpaid extra in a bad reality show.
The contrived drama plays on. Who wrote this trashy script?
I support the workgroup 2 maps. No?
But, will the Workgroup 1 and 3 prevail? They take so much, they're our target!
I'm having a tough time swallowing all this swill, and wished the fish around here would start biting more.
Just to distract me from further political disenchantment.
TL,
Scott

taggermike · 09-29-2009, 11:55 AM

Well stated, Scott. Heads they win, tails we loose. "Trust us because we know more than you do and it's for your good".

I looked this up the other day and it's seams pretty strait forward to me. I guess I'm naive. Mike

CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTIONffice

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ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS>>
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Section 25. The people shall have the right to fish upon and from>>
the public lands of the State and in the waters thereof, excepting>>
upon lands set aside for fish hatcheries, and no land owned by the>>
State shall ever be sold or transferred without reserving in the>>
people the absolute right to fish thereupon; and no law shall ever be>>
passed making it a crime for the people to enter upon the public>>
lands within this State for the purpose of fishing in any water>>
containing fish that have been planted therein by the State;>>
provided, that the legislature may by statute, provide for the season>>
when and the conditions under which the different species of fish>>
may be taken.>>

Billy V · 09-29-2009, 12:22 PM

It might be a good idea to take a copy of the California Constitution with you to court if you get a DFG ticket.

A Constitutional lawyer might help as well.

tylerdurden · 09-29-2009, 12:57 PM

That constitution thing has been read over many times. The state can regulate where you fish, and what you fish for. It doesn't really help us at all.

nunyabizness1 · 09-30-2009, 09:50 AM

If anyone needs a cheap and easy way to get to the meeting, bloodydecks has organized buses to get people there. It should be a fun trip! For the price of $20 roundtrip, you can't go wrong! PLUS, you will receive a 1/2 day pass from one of the local landings in exchange. We are trying to get mass numbers in attendance at this meeting. There are 3 buses and they have various stops at park n rides along the way... please go visit these links and RSVP right away! This is a great way to get the momentum up for the mtg!

San Diego Bus Route/Link: http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...san-diego.html

Riverside Link: http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...riverside.html

Temecula/Lake Elsinore/Corona Link: http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...-temecula.html

Get your reservations in while they are still available!

Thank you!

Afran · 09-30-2009, 10:12 AM

09-28-2009, 10:50 AM	#1
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	You're Getting Screwed, Don't Just Sit There! Here it is for the record. This is the group 3 Reserve Proposal for Scripps Pier, and heading North. - San Diego-Scripps Coastal SMCA 73136 South Mainland North: 32 53' South: 32 52' East: MHTL West: -117 16.4' (Tenth of a minute line that anchors at Point La Jolla.) SMCA High The take of all living marine resources is prohibited except the recreational take of coastal pelagic finfish by dip net. F^ck Me! When was the Last Time You Caught a Pelagic Fish in a Dip Net ? They have disrespected Us All. Don't let them get away with it. Designation is not intended to impede pier maintenance or research activities, scientific collection by SIO/UCSD, the Southwest Fisheries Science Center and Birch Aquarium or laboratory tank ocean water intake and discharge activities by these entities. So the Scripps employees get to Fish and Dump Crap in these waters, but we Can Not! Start Preparing Your Responses for the Oct 21 Meeting, and Sign up to Roll Call. We need to know who we can count on to be there. Last edited by Billy V; 09-28-2009 at 12:24 PM.

09-28-2009, 05:54 PM	#2
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	For clarity Coastal Pelagic = bait fish. Mac, sardine, chovy... Pelagic = yt, thresher, wsb... Coastal pelagic and pelagic are different under the definitions in this process. Basically we are getting screwed. At least they don't expect us to catch yt with a dipnet though . __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

09-28-2009, 07:48 PM	#3
Toad Patrol Junior Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pt Dume, Malibu Posts: 8	Time to call? Billy, sounds like you just realized you're playing poker with card sharks. We are being played so bad. By some well paid pros. I'm just an unpaid extra in a bad reality show. The contrived drama plays on. Who wrote this trashy script? I support the workgroup 2 maps. No? But, will the Workgroup 1 and 3 prevail? They take so much, they're our target! I'm having a tough time swallowing all this swill, and wished the fish around here would start biting more. Just to distract me from further political disenchantment. TL, Scott

09-29-2009, 12:57 PM	#6
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	That constitution thing has been read over many times. The state can regulate where you fish, and what you fish for. It doesn't really help us at all. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

09-29-2009, 12:22 PM	#5
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	It might be a good idea to take a copy of the California Constitution with you to court if you get a DFG ticket. A Constitutional lawyer might help as well.

09-30-2009, 09:50 AM	#7
nunyabizness1 Maggie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nunya Posts: 126	If anyone needs a cheap and easy way to get to the meeting, bloodydecks has organized buses to get people there. It should be a fun trip! For the price of $20 roundtrip, you can't go wrong! PLUS, you will receive a 1/2 day pass from one of the local landings in exchange. We are trying to get mass numbers in attendance at this meeting. There are 3 buses and they have various stops at park n rides along the way... please go visit these links and RSVP right away! This is a great way to get the momentum up for the mtg! San Diego Bus Route/Link: http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...san-diego.html Riverside Link: http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...riverside.html Temecula/Lake Elsinore/Corona Link: http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...-temecula.html Get your reservations in while they are still available! Thank you!

09-30-2009, 10:12 AM	#8
Afran fishy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 219