11/11/10 LJ Report - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

blackcloud9 · 11-13-2010, 10:27 AM

kr, just so you know, "following the protocol" means quietly emailing a list
of your kayak buddies and really f'ing up the Point. So, snap out of it.

And how dare you attempt to encroach on THEIR party by making a wildly
general observation "congrats on the big big fish", which I would've
otherwise thought was a BSB or a halibut until scallywag and others spilled
the beans with emotional rants. Plus, there is no way that we want OUR
fish swimming under OTHER PEOPLES kayaks. No way.

Ever seen grown adults act like jr. high kids? Just add

.
Or

krmaxima · 11-13-2010, 10:56 AM

LOL!!!

Nic D · 11-13-2010, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackcloud9

kr, just so you know, "following the protocol" means quietly emailing a list
of your kayak buddies and really f'ing up the Point. So, snap out of it.

And how dare you attempt to encroach on THEIR party by making a wildly
general observation "congrats on the big big fish", which I would've
otherwise thought was a BSB or a halibut until scallywag and others spilled
the beans with emotional rants. Plus, there is no way that we want OUR
fish swimming under OTHER PEOPLES kayaks. No way.

Ever seen grown adults act like jr. high kids? Just add

.
Or

I don't know you from Adam but, I never would have thought you to be a douche.... and if you're not, then stop acting as one.

I didn't say anything that hasn't been already said several times on here before.

DESTROYER · 11-13-2010, 11:49 AM

...Who's got the Popcorn?

You could say I've been around the block a few time on the kayak boards.

This isn't the first and it sure won't be the last time this happens.

Smile and Fish.

Today there was 15 kayakers out and 10 PBers on the point and I will tell you that it was not WFO. LJ is the same way it is every year, big fish for those lucky enough to get out and actually catch them. I didn't catch shit today.

This is the year of the squid. There is squid from Mexico all the way up to Point Conception this year. Salty Dawgs who have been fishing for decades have never seen this much squid. I've been out to LJ 3x recently and all I've caught is squid and mackeral.

FYI- LJ is at the end of a Rainbow and there is always a bite and there is always fish if your in the right spot at the right time. Anytime you have a trench next to kelp=Fish.

There are some unwritten Rules. If you want to live by them, great! If you don't, that's up to you.

Rule 1: First thing about LJ, don't talk about LJ

Rule 2: Never post someone else's catch or picture unless they ask you to.

Rule 3: See Rule 1

Hope this helps! Tight Lines

Moyer

blackcloud9 · 11-13-2010, 01:06 PM

Like I said ...

This BWE board used to be useful, and Jim's board before that, and Allen's
Yakfishing board before that - all the way back to about 1998, when I got
my first Scupper Pro and started fishing the La Jolla kelp and sharing
information with other kayakers.

We have always "talked about LJ", so I am not sure where that rule #1
came from, the LJ Guide book?

I didn't realize I plagarized the Jr High thing from StinkyMatt's post, but
man, we are on the same page. High five to whoever you are. (and I know
all of these other guys, mostly)

Through no fault of the BWE team, I'm sure most will agree, this "reports"
board has become essentially worthless. No reponse necessary.

DESTROYER · 11-13-2010, 01:13 PM

Larry- The Rules were a JOKE!

I've always shared and still get shit from my friends for doing so.

lamb · 11-13-2010, 01:59 PM

Guys thanks for the report.

Larry, I wouldn't say these boards are no longer useful. There is still plenty of good info circling around, especially for the new folks. When it comes to fishing reports, I miss "good ol' times" where part of the thrill was to post your trip the same day, to inspire someone going out the next day. And, off course, brag...

Scally has a point - someone else story is just that, their story. It's always been like that.

What I think is silly is when people try to imply what's the "proper" way when it comes to sharing your fishing report. That's a highly personal thing IMHO - share if you wish, just don't do it if you feel like that... To be patrolling "Kayak Fishing Reports" public forums so you can tell other people when and how to share their fishing report... just doesn't make sense to me.

Here's more of the same discussion on this same side-tracked subject from a few years back
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ead.php?t=2932

Iceman · 11-13-2010, 02:08 PM

Pretty sure the timely reports stopped about when I moved

..........we used to call in "fresh off the horn" reports back in the good old days.

I still hate chasing yesterdays fish, much rather stumble on my own!

DESTROYER · 11-13-2010, 02:11 PM

Amen Adi!

You guys have to give reports because Adi can't fish for a month or do the 5 finger knucke shuffle

Here is the evolution of a Kayak Fisherman:

Man buys kayak
Man fishes in Kayak
Man Catches fish
Man post Report
Man Catches more fish
Man post more reports
Man gets in internet arguement
Man gets in kayak click
Man shares info with friends only
Man gets tired of kayak click and other kayak fisherman
Man buys power boat
Man stops posting report
Man call kayakers speed bumps...

...then it starts with a new group of kayak fisherman all over again.

LOL

surfnutnj · 11-17-2010, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DESTROYER

Larry- The Rules were a JOKE!

I've always shared and still get shit from my friends for doing so.

This is exactly why I never bother to post a fish report EVER even when I do catch a fish...just like surfing...people think they own the ocean and have a right to self regulate it and create imaginary rules or laws.

As long as long as you are respectful and not an "a" hole then I think you should be able to do whatever you want as long as it is within the "real life" laws.

I guess mentioning that you saw "a guy" catch "a fish" is against the unwritten rules. I will have to try to remember that.

sheesh... I have a totally different view of these boards now... o well

DESTROYER · 11-17-2010, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surfnutnj

This is exactly why I never bother to post a fish report EVER even when I do catch a fish...just like surfing...people think they own the ocean and have a right to self regulate it and create imaginary rules or laws.

As long as long as you are respectful and not an "a" hole then I think you should be able to do whatever you want as long as it is within the "real life" laws.

I guess mentioning that you saw "a guy" catch "a fish" is against the unwritten rules. I will have to try to remember that.

sheesh... I have a totally different view of these boards now... o well

Don't let it get to you. I never judge a person by their internet rants. You never know how many

they've had when they wrote that Chit. I find that a simple private message usually does the trick. Cheers!

driftwood · 11-17-2010, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surfnutnj

This is exactly why I never bother to post a fish report EVER even when I do catch a fish...just like surfing...people think they own the ocean and have a right to self regulate it and create imaginary rules or laws.

As long as long as you are respectful and not an "a" hole then I think you should be able to do whatever you want as long as it is within the "real life" laws.

I guess mentioning that you saw "a guy" catch "a fish" is against the unwritten rules. I will have to try to remember that.

sheesh... I have a totally different view of these boards now... o well

You have never posted your own fish report? Like many, I have posted quite a bit. And I have never seen anyone be presecuted for that.

I personally, would love to see your fish report. I think its safe to say, that many in this forum would love to read your report and give you props. Try it, I think you'll like it.

But make sure its your own, not someone else's.

BigBalsa · 11-13-2010, 02:39 PM

Paddled out at LJ today into 9'+ sets. Had to dig really hard but eventually made it out past the breakers, only to get caught in that nasty southerly rip. Once the wind picked up it was nearly impossible to stay anywhere near 'the spot'. Bait was also super scarce - caught just one anemic spanish after nearly two hours of jigging.

Manged to tie up to some big bull kelp before the tide came up, and lined out my lone mack. Thought I hooked something big but turns out I just snagged bottom with my lone bait. Broke it off at the swivel and tried to ty on a jig, but with the swell picking up and the wind chop, I started to get really seasick. On the way in, a huge rouge roller dumped me before I could lash everything down, and I lost two rods and my new bait setup.

I am glad I made it in ok without getting hit by lightning or run over, and avoided getting washed over the rocks. Buty I am now on my 7th straight skunk at LJ. Winter fishing here sure sucks.

BTW - I did'nt see anyone else doing any better in those rough conditions.

blackcloud9 · 11-13-2010, 02:43 PM

Todd forgot that one.

The Faker
La Jolla conditions were horrible and nobody caught anything. And kayak fishing is not fun. Move along.

Classic old posts Adi thanks for digging them up. Memories.

Matt · 11-13-2010, 03:09 PM

F'ing speed bumps!!!!

dorado50 · 11-13-2010, 03:17 PM

Hi Matt....are you going to post up your really big fish today or are you going to wait till the bites over?

thanks for the stuff...

DESTROYER · 11-13-2010, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorado50

Hi Matt....are you going to post up your really big fish today or are you going to wait till the bites over?

thanks for the stuff...

I don't count Dave!

DESTROYER · 11-13-2010, 03:22 PM

I remember that one Adi, but I wasn't trying to copy it. It's threads like this one that burned Todd out on kayak fishing and put him into hiding. He is right, fishing is supposed to be for fun.

I remember getting OTW reports back in the day. No one fished in the winter except Andy, Jim, and Lifeguard Guy. No one wore waders except Quiet Man, and he got shit for it because people said it was dangerous.

We are all being judged everyday by outsiders looking in. I personally am going to say what I want to say and do what I want to do.

I get excited when I catch big fish and because my family doesn't really understand the thrill of paddling out at O'Dark:30 and catching a big fish, it's nice to post a picture and get props from the fishing crowd.

Last Statement:

I don't think what krmaxima said was so bad. Big deal, he's excited about the sport and that's Rad.

A lot of LJ maybe closed down very soon and we might be looking at these old reports in the archives telling are kids how it used to be.
Relax, breathe, and have fun. Life is too short to be a hater.

Tight Line

Moyer

T Bone · 11-13-2010, 05:55 PM

To quote Schultz: "I KNOW NUTTZING!!!"

Matt · 11-13-2010, 07:33 PM

Dude you quoted Sgt. Schultz......

, well played sir, well played!

11-13-2010, 01:59 PM	#7
lamb Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,563	Guys thanks for the report. Larry, I wouldn't say these boards are no longer useful. There is still plenty of good info circling around, especially for the new folks. When it comes to fishing reports, I miss "good ol' times" where part of the thrill was to post your trip the same day, to inspire someone going out the next day. And, off course, brag... Scally has a point - someone else story is just that, their story. It's always been like that. What I think is silly is when people try to imply what's the "proper" way when it comes to sharing your fishing report. That's a highly personal thing IMHO - share if you wish, just don't do it if you feel like that... To be patrolling "Kayak Fishing Reports" public forums so you can tell other people when and how to share their fishing report... just doesn't make sense to me. Here's more of the same discussion on this same side-tracked subject from a few years back http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ead.php?t=2932 __________________ [------------------------ <)))< ....b-a-a-a-a

11-13-2010, 02:08 PM	#8
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,943	Pretty sure the timely reports stopped about when I moved..........we used to call in "fresh off the horn" reports back in the good old days. I still hate chasing yesterdays fish, much rather stumble on my own! __________________

11-13-2010, 02:11 PM	#9
DESTROYER Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "The Table" Posts: 976	Amen Adi! You guys have to give reports because Adi can't fish for a month or do the 5 finger knucke shuffle Here is the evolution of a Kayak Fisherman: Man buys kayak Man fishes in Kayak Man Catches fish Man post Report Man Catches more fish Man post more reports Man gets in internet arguement Man gets in kayak click Man shares info with friends only Man gets tired of kayak click and other kayak fisherman Man buys power boat Man stops posting report Man call kayakers speed bumps... ...then it starts with a new group of kayak fisherman all over again. LOL

11-13-2010, 02:39 PM	#13
BigBalsa Junior Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 28	nasty conditions in LJ Paddled out at LJ today into 9'+ sets. Had to dig really hard but eventually made it out past the breakers, only to get caught in that nasty southerly rip. Once the wind picked up it was nearly impossible to stay anywhere near 'the spot'. Bait was also super scarce - caught just one anemic spanish after nearly two hours of jigging. Manged to tie up to some big bull kelp before the tide came up, and lined out my lone mack. Thought I hooked something big but turns out I just snagged bottom with my lone bait. Broke it off at the swivel and tried to ty on a jig, but with the swell picking up and the wind chop, I started to get really seasick. On the way in, a huge rouge roller dumped me before I could lash everything down, and I lost two rods and my new bait setup. I am glad I made it in ok without getting hit by lightning or run over, and avoided getting washed over the rocks. Buty I am now on my 7th straight skunk at LJ. Winter fishing here sure sucks. BTW - I did'nt see anyone else doing any better in those rough conditions.

11-13-2010, 03:09 PM	#15
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	F'ing speed bumps!!!! __________________ Thanks Matt F.

11-13-2010, 10:27 AM	#1
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	kr, just so you know, "following the protocol" means quietly emailing a list of your kayak buddies and really f'ing up the Point. So, snap out of it. And how dare you attempt to encroach on THEIR party by making a wildly general observation "congrats on the big big fish", which I would've otherwise thought was a BSB or a halibut until scallywag and others spilled the beans with emotional rants. Plus, there is no way that we want OUR fish swimming under OTHER PEOPLES kayaks. No way. Ever seen grown adults act like jr. high kids? Just add . Or

11-13-2010, 10:56 AM	#2
krmaxima Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Poway Posts: 46	LOL!!!

11-13-2010, 11:49 AM	#4
DESTROYER Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "The Table" Posts: 976	...Who's got the Popcorn? You could say I've been around the block a few time on the kayak boards. This isn't the first and it sure won't be the last time this happens. Smile and Fish. Today there was 15 kayakers out and 10 PBers on the point and I will tell you that it was not WFO. LJ is the same way it is every year, big fish for those lucky enough to get out and actually catch them. I didn't catch shit today. This is the year of the squid. There is squid from Mexico all the way up to Point Conception this year. Salty Dawgs who have been fishing for decades have never seen this much squid. I've been out to LJ 3x recently and all I've caught is squid and mackeral. FYI- LJ is at the end of a Rainbow and there is always a bite and there is always fish if your in the right spot at the right time. Anytime you have a trench next to kelp=Fish. There are some unwritten Rules. If you want to live by them, great! If you don't, that's up to you. Rule 1: First thing about LJ, don't talk about LJ Rule 2: Never post someone else's catch or picture unless they ask you to. Rule 3: See Rule 1 Hope this helps! Tight Lines Moyer

11-13-2010, 01:06 PM	#5
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	Like I said ... This BWE board used to be useful, and Jim's board before that, and Allen's Yakfishing board before that - all the way back to about 1998, when I got my first Scupper Pro and started fishing the La Jolla kelp and sharing information with other kayakers. We have always "talked about LJ", so I am not sure where that rule #1 came from, the LJ Guide book? I didn't realize I plagarized the Jr High thing from StinkyMatt's post, but man, we are on the same page. High five to whoever you are. (and I know all of these other guys, mostly) Through no fault of the BWE team, I'm sure most will agree, this "reports" board has become essentially worthless. No reponse necessary.

11-13-2010, 01:13 PM	#6
DESTROYER Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "The Table" Posts: 976	Larry- The Rules were a JOKE! I've always shared and still get shit from my friends for doing so.

11-13-2010, 02:43 PM	#14
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	Todd forgot that one. The Faker La Jolla conditions were horrible and nobody caught anything. And kayak fishing is not fun. Move along. Classic old posts Adi thanks for digging them up. Memories.

11-13-2010, 03:17 PM	#16
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Hi Matt....are you going to post up your really big fish today or are you going to wait till the bites over? thanks for the stuff...

11-13-2010, 03:22 PM	#18
DESTROYER Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "The Table" Posts: 976	I remember that one Adi, but I wasn't trying to copy it. It's threads like this one that burned Todd out on kayak fishing and put him into hiding. He is right, fishing is supposed to be for fun. I remember getting OTW reports back in the day. No one fished in the winter except Andy, Jim, and Lifeguard Guy. No one wore waders except Quiet Man, and he got shit for it because people said it was dangerous. We are all being judged everyday by outsiders looking in. I personally am going to say what I want to say and do what I want to do. I get excited when I catch big fish and because my family doesn't really understand the thrill of paddling out at O'Dark:30 and catching a big fish, it's nice to post a picture and get props from the fishing crowd. Last Statement: I don't think what krmaxima said was so bad. Big deal, he's excited about the sport and that's Rad. A lot of LJ maybe closed down very soon and we might be looking at these old reports in the archives telling are kids how it used to be. Relax, breathe, and have fun. Life is too short to be a hater. Tight Line Moyer

11-13-2010, 05:55 PM	#19
T Bone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 871	To quote Schultz: "I KNOW NUTTZING!!!" __________________ Barachit Baralah,Elohim-In the beginning,God-Genesis 1:1 "Who among you,if your son asked for a fish would give them a serpent " Jesus Matt. 7:10 Last edited by T Bone; 11-13-2010 at 06:19 PM.

11-13-2010, 07:33 PM	#20
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	Dude you quoted Sgt. Schultz......, well played sir, well played! __________________ Thanks Matt F.