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Old 05-07-2020, 04:06 PM   #21
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Amazing! Both videos were beautifully done. I subscribed and would love to see more!
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Old 05-07-2020, 04:36 PM   #22
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Thanks again for all of the nice comments. It puts a big smile on my face and means a lot.

I got off the water today to find the attached image on my truck, which, I dunno... Comes of vaguely threatening....
Especially since I've heard stories about people getting their tires slashed where I fish, *and* I've been hassled for posting reports in the past.

Since whichever lurker did this thought it would be the most appropriate way to get my attention, and I clearly have your attention here, I had some time to think about my response to this on my way home from fishing today....
Maybe this is an overreaction. Maybe I don't like people putting their hands on my dirty ass truck.

I'm not sure if this is a common sentiment but I was raised to use my words, and I have the damn conch.... So... uhhh... here... Have some words I guess.

(*cracks knuckles*)

Look, I get the whole culture of discretion around fishing... It takes a lot of work to scout spots and figure out what works for any given area.
When I first joined this forum, I had to have a few things explained to me. I get it.
I've relied on people more experienced than me to share their knowledge, and in discretion to boot. You know who you are.

I've had spots that I researched, found, then shared with friends only to have them take everyone they know when I wasn't around...
And I don't share spots with those people anymore.

I get it. I get the discretion thing.
But this is silly.

But can we all agree on a few things here?

1) Fishing is in decline. Just look at the numbers. 55% decline trend in annual license sales since 1980.
2) There's literally a hackneyed expression "there are plenty of other fish in the sea". Nobody's going to come out to (*redacted secret 49 mile stretch of coast*) and catch all of the fish.
3) Kayak fishermen are not going to overfish a spot. Every time I'm out fishing the area, I see at least 3-4 private boats, and that's to say nothing of the party boats.
4) Fishing this stretch of coast is *hard* and prohibitive. There's not a single easy-access launch, the waves can be downright brutal, and the fishing isn't *that* great. There's better rockfishing up north. There's better YT/WSB down south. What good fishing there is takes a lot of work to dial in, and it's not like the unwashed masses are going to be experts on day one. If I had my pick, I'd live closer to La Jolla.
5) It's not like it's some secret location that nobody knows about. It's been popular for fat pasty midwesterners on vacation and valley dwellers alike since the *freakin' Beach Boys*.... California Geography aside, I FOUND THE REEFS I FISH ON A DAMN FISH-N-MAP

I could keep this list going all afternoon, but I think you take my point.

All of this is to say, you may think you're protecting some great big secret, but I can assure you the hoards of kayak fishermen are not coming for your unfettered waters.

And on that note, anyone who does manage to get 100+ pounds of their glorified tupperware
and fishing gear through the surf without a yard sale/injury has my respect and my blessing.
Shoot me a DM even. I probably won't take you fishing, but I'll probably at least offer some support.


Anyway....

That video I made was a lot of work. A good bit of the work was convincing myself I'm not an asshole for making it, and just getting started on it feels like going out on a limb.

So yeah.... Shit like this pisses me off a bit.

I went out of my way not to utter the words of the beach community that shall not be named. Yeah, there are a couple of blips of some stairs with graffiti on them and a beach that thousands of people drive by every day.

I get annoyed by kooks as much as the next person, and I'm not looking to fish near or with assholes.

I get it. But FFS, I get bummed out by people who find something they *really* love, and their instinctive reaction is "we have to make sure nobody else knows about it" I wish half of my good non-fishing friends had the grit to drag ass out of bed at the crack of dawn and expose themselves to that much salt, stink, and harsh elements.... But most people don't. So I try to find fishermen to be friends with, and jesus christ people with this attitude make it hard.



Anyway, whoever did this, I'll make you a deal-

I'm not going to stop making videos. It's a hobby for me and a fun one.
BUT- I'll be sure to blur/edit out any precious defining features of your clandestine enclave like so many private parts in so many japanese pornography films.

What I don't like is worrying about whether my truck is ok while I'm out fishing.
This is one of my favorite ways to unwind, and I have enough shit to think about when I'm getting out as it is.

My deal for you is this-
Don't touch my truck again, and I won't make it my single-minded goal to get internet famous with these videos and publish an exhaustive guide to every launch site in the area with all of my reef coordinates and species specific instructions for noobs *just* to prove a point.... All because I'm just that big of an asshole.
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Old 05-07-2020, 05:45 PM   #23
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Gees that sucks
I remember that crap back when I surfed but didn’t think it happened with kayakers.
I for one thought it was cool seeing places I fish. I mean it’s not like there aren’t scores of videos of those places already on YouTube.
Your videos are good keep them up.
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Old 05-07-2020, 06:44 PM   #24
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you don't have to worry about me, I don't get out enough to recognize anything in a video. I probably wouldn't get there is you posted the L & L
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Old 05-07-2020, 06:55 PM   #25
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I love rock fish but I rarely travel and costco is a sure bet.

Great video. What camera are you using.
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Old 05-07-2020, 08:15 PM   #26
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New Video: Catch and Cook- Deep Fried Whole Sculpin &Rockfish

I could not have said it better myself. I wish I did. If you get threatened by another lurker, I have a few waypoints I could throw in. I’ve fished the area for 10 years (minimum 40 weekends a year) and I have a few friends that I fish with and have been respectful to not post the bites as they happen. I don’t even tell them sometimes because of this nonsense.



If they feel their next actions should be to try and keep a fishery private and send annoying PM’s, I ask them to think again. there are no new spots and fish are not there all of the time. One of Southern California staples is to drive the coast and see the ocean. Fishermen look at it and put a plan in place to wet a line. Lots of the guys wind up only shore fishing, buy a boat or get on a party boat.



There are 23 miles of beach in Malibu. Most kayakers don’t fish more than 1/2 mile offshore or from launch and are really happy catching and releasing short calicos, sand bass and miscellaneous shallow water rockfish. I personally travel 1-3 miles offshore on a regular. Let’s have some perspective!



I would like to remind These people (wHo feel it is their right to harass) of a board that was ignored and failed because of this type of nonsense permeated the board and pm’s. That board had great content from some of the original KayakFisherman in the area. The bashIng and unnecessary noise closed down that board.

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Old 05-08-2020, 01:06 PM   #27
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My Goodness...Amazing...It makes me rethink why I hate rock fishing.
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Old 05-08-2020, 04:03 PM   #28
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I love rock fish but I rarely travel and costco is a sure bet.

Great video. What camera are you using.
Thanks dude. It's a mix of things... and a bit of a testament to the fact that you don't need *the* nicest stuff to make decent looking photos/videos.
I have three different cameras for three different applications...

A friend gave me an old GoPro Hero 4 and I use it on everything that needs to be shot stationary in the kayak or underwater.

I also have an olympus TG-5 Tough. Can't recommend these enough, and there's a TG-6 now. I originally got it because it's the only waterproof point and shoot that takes RAW images. I use it for any shots you see that are slow motion, as it shoots 120fps without too much loss. TBH if I had to only have one camera to get *all* of that done, it would be this one. it's crazy powerful and versatile for what it does.

Everything else, especially in the kitchen is shot on a nikon DX crop sensor (d7100) body with a few different lenses. My two most used are a 35mm 1.8 and a 100mm 2.8 macro from Tokina. Those lenses are insanely good for the price and are great for portrait angles or really sharp macro like this https://flic.kr/p/noTgT5
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Old 05-08-2020, 04:55 PM   #29
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Been there done that been threatened by locals I posted on your video recently one thing i can say is pay them no mind I've got some videos up over the past several years and nothing has ever come of it just do as you please I'm sorry but FUCK them they don't like it to bad if they have issue let them deal with it been fishing that area for ever 20 years screw them look up my old post I have expressed my feelings more than once look out for MLO "Malibu loclas only " it's probably them
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Old 05-08-2020, 04:58 PM   #30
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I actually just got back from there was planning launching tomorrow but redtide is everywhere ugly like chocolate milk
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Old 05-08-2020, 05:02 PM   #31
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I am sorry this happened to you.

I would hope the person that did this would think about the possible reactions someone would have, including themselves if they stumbled upon someone messing with their vehicle. It might turn into a very serious situation.

Note that not everyone on this board is a jerk or would even think of doing something like this.

I enjoyed the video. I say party on!

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Old 05-10-2020, 11:59 AM   #32
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Giving away the secret launch spot? I enjoyed the video and post. But I can promise you I will never drag my kayak up a set of stairs. When La Jolla was closed and I to go up 2-3 stairs that was almost a deal breaker!! Thanks for the post. Thanks for the video looking forward to more.


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Old 05-10-2020, 06:04 PM   #33
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Wowza! I love this Best catch to table content we’ve had on this site IMHO.

Thanks for taking the time to put it together.
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Old 05-16-2020, 07:16 PM   #34
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Thanks

Thanks for the recipe Spencer...we changed up the sauce by adding ginger, garlic and a bit of soy...
As you can see we hated it...LOL...
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Old 05-17-2020, 12:12 AM   #35
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Well done video. You are quite the filmmaker. Thanks
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Old 05-17-2020, 09:14 AM   #36
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Thanks for the recipe Spencer...we changed up the sauce by adding ginger, garlic and a bit of soy...
As you can see we hated it...LOL...
Nice!!! Yeah – the traditional recipe seems to be very much a garlic/tamarind heavy dish, but I felt like that’s a bit too cloying for my taste... I do want to try adding ginger and garlic. I think those would be really complementary.

Thanks for the words of encouragement Steveo! That’s a really nice thing to say

I also appreciate all of the extra context and support on the other less fortunate aspect of this post, both in DMs and in public.
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Old 05-18-2020, 07:41 AM   #37
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Shoot me a DM even. I probably won't take you fishing, but I'll probably at least offer some support.


Anyway....

The Malibu Kayakers are a tough crowd.. Def. get their attitude from the Surfers.. I know because I have fished with them back in the day.. Low-Life's are low-lifes, not worth it to stoop to their level.. Most are good, some are rotten eggs..

If you ever need help making a video again out of Leo, Deer Creek, County Line, just lmk I'm down to tag along
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Old 05-18-2020, 07:46 AM   #38
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On this note, how about we get a yearly tournament going where all us SD/OC/Riverside guys drive up to Malibu and fish for the day
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Old 05-18-2020, 08:43 AM   #39
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On this note, how about we get a yearly tournament going where all us SD/OC/Riverside guys drive up to Malibu and fish for the day
Heh.... Well, I'm not actually looking to poke the bear... more just hoping the bear will F&$% off.
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Old 05-20-2020, 05:39 PM   #40
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thats like throwing fuel into the fire

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