I posted a post-action report on the F&G Comm. MLPA mtg on Mar. 3rd. 2010 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

zenspearo · 03-03-2010, 11:07 PM

From Spearboard.

http://spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=100897

Thank you to all kayakfishermen who showed up. Paul L., Chris Fierro (who swings both ways..

--I mean both kayakfishing and spearing), Tyler, Grego, and oh damn, my mind is tired and shutting down.... Been an 18-hour day.

Suffice it to say that you all rock.

habanero · 03-04-2010, 02:57 AM

Thanks Joe and all the Spearfishing clan for taking the long drive and sticking it out all day. It was good to see you fighting for us again, and again. I had the very distinct feeling that things would have gone much worse had we not shown up in reasonable force to defend our position.

MVC · 03-04-2010, 06:00 AM

Thanks for your support Joe. All I can say is that I will never spend another dime in Laguna.

stairman · 03-04-2010, 07:27 AM

how about a promise to never vote for the party most associated with radical environmentalists......

If you don't know who I am talking about you are probably one of them..

FISHIONADO · 03-04-2010, 07:52 AM

I was very sorry to miss this meeting, I had a personal family issue that I could not avoid. Thanks so much to the spearos and kayakers that represented.

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Originally Posted by stairman

how about a promise to never vote for the party most associated with radical environmentalists......

If you don't know who I am talking about you are probably one of them..

I'm one of the people you call the enemy (I switched parties in 2006). I'd like to know how your party helped us in this effort. Let's take it to PM to spare the masses from a political discussion. Maybe we could post a summary if it's entertaining. :-)

Grego · 03-04-2010, 08:29 AM

Nice seeing you as always Joe! Great presentation!

I was stunned the way they had come after PV....unfortunately I had already ceded my time. Won't happen again without me being able to comment. A formal letter will be shot off.

Grego

Billy V · 03-04-2010, 09:49 AM

Thank You everyone who represented at this meeting. I had a commitment that prevented me from attending, but watched as much as I could on c-span.

The Video clips were very effective evidence. They boxed some BRTF members in, and exposed the lies they told to Commissioner Dan Richards. Lets hope some legal action comes of this.

The presentations were pointed and impressive - but regardless of how well they hit the mark it all came down to the last 10 seconds of the meeting when the 3:2 Vote went against our wants and needs.

Its obvious that Mike Sutton bends over for Meg Caldwell. He read a prewritten motion to send forward only the IPA Map for evaluation. When countered with an amendment from Commissioner Kellog to include the Fishermans Map - Work Group 2 Map for evaluation as well, Mike Sutton refused to budge.

Commissioner Dan Richards was also in support of forwards ALL the Maps - so they could be evaluated Equally - but again Mike Sutton is Meg Caldwells counterpart in this scheme and will continue her bad work.

Commissioner Rogers seems to have gotten his panties in a bunch as well, as he was also captured being less that impartial toward this process. I truly believe he is a tormented woman trapped in a mans body. His gestures and temperament tell the real story . (FU Jag-Off)

Its my opinion that D. Benninhoven has passed away some time in the last year, and they have replaced his blood with embalming fluid and prop him Up for these meetings. The voice you hear from his corps is akin to an Obama Binladen Video Tape - The guy is just not there.

Thats the way I saw it on C-span. It was the 1st. time in a year I didn't march around that fkun room with high blood pressure. Instead I watched/ and cursed their families from home.

Thank You for your well placed shots yesterday - now look for, and further assist Commissioner Richards, and Kellog with their investigation with BRTF Lies and Video Tape.

Holy Mackerel · 03-04-2010, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by zenspearo

Chris Fierro (who swings both ways..

--I mean both kayakfishing and spearing),

hahaha!

Joe, my friend, good seeing you and the spearfishing nation again, and all our kayakers. We have to keep up our commitment, beacuse we have come a long way, and are almost to the end of this long battle.

03-03-2010, 11:07 PM	#1
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	I posted a post-action report on the F&G Comm. MLPA mtg on Mar. 3rd. 2010 From Spearboard. http://spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=100897 Thank you to all kayakfishermen who showed up. Paul L., Chris Fierro (who swings both ways..--I mean both kayakfishing and spearing), Tyler, Grego, and oh damn, my mind is tired and shutting down.... Been an 18-hour day. Suffice it to say that you all rock. __________________ A spearo, but we are in this MLPA mess together

03-04-2010, 02:57 AM	#2
habanero Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SD Posts: 133	Thanks Joe and all the Spearfishing clan for taking the long drive and sticking it out all day. It was good to see you fighting for us again, and again. I had the very distinct feeling that things would have gone much worse had we not shown up in reasonable force to defend our position.

03-04-2010, 06:00 AM	#3
MVC Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Costa Mesa Posts: 278	Thanks for your support Joe. All I can say is that I will never spend another dime in Laguna.

03-04-2010, 07:27 AM	#4
stairman Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84	how about a promise to never vote for the party most associated with radical environmentalists...... If you don't know who I am talking about you are probably one of them..

03-04-2010, 08:29 AM	#6
Grego Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 445	Nice seeing you as always Joe! Great presentation! I was stunned the way they had come after PV....unfortunately I had already ceded my time. Won't happen again without me being able to comment. A formal letter will be shot off. Grego

03-04-2010, 09:49 AM	#7
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	Thank You everyone who represented at this meeting. I had a commitment that prevented me from attending, but watched as much as I could on c-span. The Video clips were very effective evidence. They boxed some BRTF members in, and exposed the lies they told to Commissioner Dan Richards. Lets hope some legal action comes of this. The presentations were pointed and impressive - but regardless of how well they hit the mark it all came down to the last 10 seconds of the meeting when the 3:2 Vote went against our wants and needs. Its obvious that Mike Sutton bends over for Meg Caldwell. He read a prewritten motion to send forward only the IPA Map for evaluation. When countered with an amendment from Commissioner Kellog to include the Fishermans Map - Work Group 2 Map for evaluation as well, Mike Sutton refused to budge. Commissioner Dan Richards was also in support of forwards ALL the Maps - so they could be evaluated Equally - but again Mike Sutton is Meg Caldwells counterpart in this scheme and will continue her bad work. Commissioner Rogers seems to have gotten his panties in a bunch as well, as he was also captured being less that impartial toward this process. I truly believe he is a tormented woman trapped in a mans body. His gestures and temperament tell the real story . (FU Jag-Off) Its my opinion that D. Benninhoven has passed away some time in the last year, and they have replaced his blood with embalming fluid and prop him Up for these meetings. The voice you hear from his corps is akin to an Obama Binladen Video Tape - The guy is just not there. Thats the way I saw it on C-span. It was the 1st. time in a year I didn't march around that fkun room with high blood pressure. Instead I watched/ and cursed their families from home. Thank You for your well placed shots yesterday - now look for, and further assist Commissioner Richards, and Kellog with their investigation with BRTF Lies and Video Tape.