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Old 09-05-2015, 09:45 AM   #1
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This is NOT an idle threat, this is VERY real. I just spoke to the lifeguards. The BEACH WILL BE CLOSES TO KAYAK FISHERMEN. They are watching yakkers come in with their binoculars and if ANY sharks are seen, the beach will be closed to all yak fishermen.

Don't be an idiot, if you must gut your fish, do it out in open water and make sure the hammers are not following you in to the landing. If you are asked by ANYONE, "no I have not seen any sharks today". This should be your standard answer.

We will lose are right to fish LJ and who knows when we will get it back-if ever!!!!
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Old 09-05-2015, 09:56 AM   #2
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"In Saturday's sighting, kayak fisherman captured cellphone video that looked like a scene from Jaws."

With reporting like that, it's only a matter of time. http://www.10news.com/news/2nd-shark...ompts-advisory
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Old 09-05-2015, 10:12 AM   #3
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Complete BS. Sounds like a violation of public access. Where is SAC and CCA-CAL? Might as well spend some of that money they made at Fred Hall to fight our right to access the ocean. That or start dragging your kayaks down to Children's seal's Pool.

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Old 09-05-2015, 12:24 PM   #4
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I would be curious how they could legally justify closing a beach and public boat launch.
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Old 09-05-2015, 04:36 PM   #5
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I would be curious how they could legally justify closing a beach and public boat launch.


Did you hear about a swimmer who got attacked by a GWS while a pier fisherman was fighting it?

The City of Manhattan Beach closed the pier to fishing for three months, removed cleaning stations and put up signs for new (but illegal) rules.


I testified on many of the meetings along with many other fishermen.

They finally opened the pier sooner than intended, but the cleaning stations are gone, and the illegal rules are being enforced by police officers.
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Old 09-05-2015, 06:55 PM   #6
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I would be curious how they could legally justify closing a beach and public boat launch.

Haven't you learned from post 9/11 rhetoric? It goes something like this: "Out of an abundance of caution for public safety...(fill in whatever bs you want)."

That's how they shut it down.




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Old 09-05-2015, 12:28 PM   #7
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Isn't there already "blood in the water" from normal food chain activity? --- fish eating fish, sea lions eating fish, sharks eating fish, sharks eating sea lions, etc., etc.

Isn't there fish scent in the water from all the bait balls, schools and fish boils? What about the normal death of sea life in general as a part of the natural life cycle?

What happens in the water now every time a shark eats a meal in the normal course of daily living? Any fish juice splattered around from fish and mammals masticating each other? What about the sports and commercial boats cleaning their fish on the way back to Mission Bay or San Diego Bay?

What impact do a few kayak fishermen have on all of this process of life in the ocean?


Haven't the hammerheads migrated into this area mostly because of warmer water temperatures? I'm pretty sure they didn't follow kayaks to La Jolla from Mexico.


Maybe they are drawn to the prolific sea life of the restricted preserve and the amazing ecology of the La Jolla & Scripps canyons, kelp beds and everything else that makes such a rich environment for sea life out there? Hmmmm?

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Old 09-05-2015, 12:46 PM   #8
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How hard is it to bring out a sponge to wipe off the blood from your kayak before you head in? And a few heavy duty contractor garbage bags to throw your fish in at the end of the day? I think this is totally overblown, but a shark following a kayak in to a beach with swimmers in going to incite a media feeding frenzy every time. Do your best to stop a potential problem.
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Old 09-05-2015, 12:50 PM   #9
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This is NOT an idle threat, this is VERY real. I just spoke to the lifeguards. The BEACH WILL BE CLOSES TO KAYAK FISHERMEN. They are watching yakkers come in with their binoculars and if ANY sharks are seen, the beach will be closed to all yak fishermen.

Don't be an idiot, if you must gut your fish, do it out in open water and make sure the hammers are not following you in to the landing. If you are asked by ANYONE, "no I have not seen any sharks today". This should be your standard answer.

We will lose are right to fish LJ and who knows when we will get it back-if ever!!!!
Point to the leopards and scream "theyre right there!" and run flailing your arms.
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Old 09-05-2015, 02:11 PM   #10
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I am certainly not "The sky is falling" kind of a guy but I think this is a serious threat to this community. Having seen what went on during the MLPA process I can say with certainty a that there are a lot more people with a lot more money than this community has that would shut us all down. Logic and science be dammed. It simply doesn't matter. All they need is some lame excuse that the media will get behind.
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Old 09-05-2015, 03:16 PM   #11
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Why do they feel the need to threaten kayak fishermen with closure of the launch, when they won't even enforce the no swimming signs at the launch. At least 1/2 the times I land there are paddle boarders playing trying to learn how to do it, right at the launch and landing zone. Also often there are tourist watching their friend in rentals while standing in knee or waist deep water. They are a hazard to landing and aren't even paying attention as you come in with limited dirrectional control in the surf. It seems the lifeguards need to station one at the landing to keep the people not launching or landing a water craft out of the water and direct them to the appropriate area. Most of all is why did the city of San Diego need to spend the millions they did building a newer lifeguard station at "the childrens pool" when they don't let people use the beach. Is it important to have them there in case one of the Fricken Tourist falls in the water while trying to get a closer look at the seals.
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