Vittle Vault livewell for Ocean Kayak Big Game 2 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

aznative96 · 02-06-2018, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

The major, and I mean MAJOR advantage to having the inlet house hang over the side is the fact that not if, but when, you get something caught in the pump(eelgrass, seaweed, trash, etc) you can easily clear it. I have a Hobie tank and I can tell you that clearing crap that gets caught in the inlet or impeller is a fucking nightmare.

Very good point. Thanks

King Saba · 02-06-2018, 08:54 PM

BUT! Having the bilge pump hanging over the side does create drag which does compromise speed quite a bit on a wider kayak like yours. I'd weigh your options. I don't know how your fishing grounds are like, but if there isn't a lot of grass or muck that would get stuck in your pump then I say go with the scupper route.

aznative96 · 02-07-2018, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by King Saba

BUT! Having the bilge pump hanging over the side does create drag which does compromise speed quite a bit on a wider kayak like yours. I'd weigh your options. I don't know how your fishing grounds are like, but if there isn't a lot of grass or muck that would get stuck in your pump then I say go with the scupper route.

Kind of what I was thinking. There aren't a lot of areas where grass and seaweed are emergent. My main hazard to the bottom of the yak will be rocks, coral, and garbage. I plan on using a screen so I should be able to turn the pump off and the loss of suction should allow the debris to fall away.

GregAndrew · 02-07-2018, 06:09 PM

If you want to do your pump thru the scupper, I would recommend attaching a sink strainer to the end of it. It gives you more surface area to draw from, which will lead to less debris sucked up. A removable priming bulb and hose is pretty good also. I use a Vittles Vault tank with thru scupper pickup and outflow in my Trident 15. It works great, and rarely have any problems with debris.

aznative96 · 02-07-2018, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GregAndrew

If you want to do your pump thru the scupper, I would recommend attaching a sink strainer to the end of it. It gives you more surface area to draw from, which will lead to less debris sucked up. A removable priming bulb and hose is pretty good also. I use a Vittles Vault tank with thru scupper pickup and outflow in my Trident 15. It works great, and rarely have any problems with debris.

What is the length of hose or pipe to get through the scupper. I'm thinking of mounting my pump with the inlet pipe right down through the scupper and a mesh screen on the end. My idea will work if the 4 inch pump inlet pipe is long enough.

Thanks to all.

TJones · 02-07-2018, 09:36 PM

Including the pick up hose and routed it up through the scupper hole on a 2017 Trident. The tank operates just like a hobie tank. As soon as I get a chance I will post pictures. My parts list was probably more than 230$ well with it though .

Hunters Pa · 02-08-2018, 07:25 AM

I thought about the scupper pickup when I built my last few tanks. It definitely looks cleaner and does not add drag. I ended up going with an over the side pickup for a few reasons:

- No need to prime
- Easier to clear
- Drag is not that bad
- Non-platform specific. If I wanted to use it on a different yak where the scupper configuration is different then I am still good to go

Not trying to sway your decision. Just stating why I went the way I did.

Good luck with your build!

02-06-2018, 08:54 PM	#2
King Saba Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: SGV Posts: 848	BUT! Having the bilge pump hanging over the side does create drag which does compromise speed quite a bit on a wider kayak like yours. I'd weigh your options. I don't know how your fishing grounds are like, but if there isn't a lot of grass or muck that would get stuck in your pump then I say go with the scupper route. __________________ Baitfish catcher extraordinaire

02-07-2018, 09:36 PM	#6
TJones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,523	I ordered hobie parts Including the pick up hose and routed it up through the scupper hole on a 2017 Trident. The tank operates just like a hobie tank. As soon as I get a chance I will post pictures. My parts list was probably more than 230$ well with it though .

02-07-2018, 06:09 PM	#4
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	If you want to do your pump thru the scupper, I would recommend attaching a sink strainer to the end of it. It gives you more surface area to draw from, which will lead to less debris sucked up. A removable priming bulb and hose is pretty good also. I use a Vittles Vault tank with thru scupper pickup and outflow in my Trident 15. It works great, and rarely have any problems with debris.

02-08-2018, 07:25 AM	#7
Hunters Pa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fullerton Posts: 1,358	I thought about the scupper pickup when I built my last few tanks. It definitely looks cleaner and does not add drag. I ended up going with an over the side pickup for a few reasons: - No need to prime - Easier to clear - Drag is not that bad - Non-platform specific. If I wanted to use it on a different yak where the scupper configuration is different then I am still good to go Not trying to sway your decision. Just stating why I went the way I did. Good luck with your build!