PA 12 or 14 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

tunaseeker · 03-29-2015, 07:56 PM

Just sold my outback and am Leary of moving up to the PA as its gonna be heavy to lug around and not sure of landing that beast. For those of you that move up to the PA- good? Or wish you had your outback or Revo still?

danjor · 03-29-2015, 08:26 PM

I love my PA14 as long as it's in the water and not sticking out 8 feet past my tailgate(shortbed tacoma), or having to bring it up stairs(just experienced that this week) or trying to put the wheels back in after landing, or dragging it threw sand, or just anything other than it being in the water. But I still love it lol

tunaseeker · 03-29-2015, 08:37 PM

Haha
That's what I was thinking!

Pinhead · 03-29-2015, 09:14 PM

I just moved up from a 14' Malibu x-factor to a 2014 14' PA.

The added weight just makes it more of a hassle loading, unloading, storing etc..., but I forget all of that when I'm fishing and enjoying the additional stability. Once you get in the groove of handling and dealing with it out of the water, it's not so tough. The trade-off is worth it.

Dannowar · 03-29-2015, 11:16 PM

Or get a paddle kayak, lose 60 pounds in mass, and launch it from spots that reduce your paddle time from an hour to ten minutes.

tsugg · 03-30-2015, 06:43 AM

Most of the heavy hassels associated with moving the PA around on land can be reduced by buying the Wheeleze kayak cart with medium sized wheels. With a few simple mods you can make it fit the PA so you can literally move it around with one finger. The wheeleze doesn't use the scupper holes and that allows you to located the cart so that the PA is perfectly balanced and moves effortlessly. The best thing I've purchased for mine so far!
Be sure and buy or build the optional rails.
A wise PA fisherman on this site helped me set it up and the ease of moving it around is crazy easy now.
GET THE 14

Fish Taco · 03-30-2015, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tsugg

Most of the heavy hassels associated with moving the PA around on land can be reduced by buying the Wheeleze kayak cart with medium sized wheels. With a few simple mods you can make it fit the PA so you can literally move it around with one finger. The wheeleze doesn't use the scupper holes and that allows you to located the cart so that the PA is perfectly balanced and moves effortlessly. The best thing I've purchased for mine so far!
Be sure and buy or build the optional rails.
A wise PA fisherman on this site helped me set it up and the ease of moving it around is crazy easy now.
GET THE 14

FWIW... some guys who use PAs in my old kayak club in New York (KFA-NY) highly recommended this modified Wheeleze Kayak Cart with a C Tug Cart... (Mullet Miller Cart)

Jon Shein of KayakFishingStore.com sells them, and I believe sells conversion kits as well. Looks like the best of both worlds if you ask me... and better be, cause I just ordered one a few days ago!

YakDout · 03-30-2015, 07:18 AM

From what I've heard, the 14 is faster and tracks better. Makes sense with the longer hull. I know I'm glad I chose the 14

5-20 · 03-30-2015, 07:31 AM

I keep on drooling over the 2015 PA14s. Just not really sure yet if I want to get in one for what I could put into a boat.

Pinhead · 03-30-2015, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 5-20

I keep on drooling over the 2015 PA14s. Just not really sure yet if I want to get in one for what I could put into a boat.

I thought the exact same thing....*maybe I should just get a used 17ft center console Hmmmmm ??* Then about 2 months ago, I pulled the trigger on a 2014 PA. I still can't believe I spent $3K....but its a great boat and a ton of fun.

...and I will never have engine repairs or boat licensing fees

YakDout · 03-30-2015, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinhead

I thought the exact same thing....*maybe I should just get a used 17ft center console Hmmmmm ??* Then about 2 months ago, I pulled the trigger on a 2014 PA. I still can't believe I spent $3K....but its a great boat and a ton of fun.

...and I will never have engine repairs or boat licensing fees

Or storage fees, or fuel fees for a boat, etc, etc, etc....

tsugg · 03-30-2015, 03:33 PM

I don't know how much those modified versions are but the only option you need are the rails. I relocated the rails in 3/4" on each side to match the hull ribs on the PA14 and its like magic, you lift the nose up swing it over the wheel eze and it self centers itsself. Those optional rails were I think $20 or you can build them yourself.

03-29-2015, 07:56 PM	#1
tunaseeker TB Metal Art Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 651	PA 12 or 14 Just sold my outback and am Leary of moving up to the PA as its gonna be heavy to lug around and not sure of landing that beast. For those of you that move up to the PA- good? Or wish you had your outback or Revo still?

03-29-2015, 08:26 PM	#2
danjor Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Riverside CA Posts: 673	I love my PA14 as long as it's in the water and not sticking out 8 feet past my tailgate(shortbed tacoma), or having to bring it up stairs(just experienced that this week) or trying to put the wheels back in after landing, or dragging it threw sand, or just anything other than it being in the water. But I still love it lol Last edited by danjor; 03-30-2015 at 10:12 AM.

03-29-2015, 11:16 PM	#5
Dannowar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,823	Or get a paddle kayak, lose 60 pounds in mass, and launch it from spots that reduce your paddle time from an hour to ten minutes. __________________ "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; lick it once and you’ll suck forever." — Brian Wilson

03-30-2015, 06:43 AM	#6
tsugg LOWSPARK Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: CARLSBAD Posts: 251	PA Most of the heavy hassels associated with moving the PA around on land can be reduced by buying the Wheeleze kayak cart with medium sized wheels. With a few simple mods you can make it fit the PA so you can literally move it around with one finger. The wheeleze doesn't use the scupper holes and that allows you to located the cart so that the PA is perfectly balanced and moves effortlessly. The best thing I've purchased for mine so far! Be sure and buy or build the optional rails. A wise PA fisherman on this site helped me set it up and the ease of moving it around is crazy easy now. GET THE 14

03-30-2015, 03:33 PM	#12
tsugg LOWSPARK Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: CARLSBAD Posts: 251	Wheeleze I don't know how much those modified versions are but the only option you need are the rails. I relocated the rails in 3/4" on each side to match the hull ribs on the PA14 and its like magic, you lift the nose up swing it over the wheel eze and it self centers itsself. Those optional rails were I think $20 or you can build them yourself.

03-29-2015, 08:37 PM	#3
tunaseeker TB Metal Art Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 651	Haha That's what I was thinking!

03-29-2015, 09:14 PM	#4
Pinhead We all Stink Sometimes! Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 163	I just moved up from a 14' Malibu x-factor to a 2014 14' PA. The added weight just makes it more of a hassle loading, unloading, storing etc..., but I forget all of that when I'm fishing and enjoying the additional stability. Once you get in the groove of handling and dealing with it out of the water, it's not so tough. The trade-off is worth it.

03-30-2015, 07:18 AM	#8
YakDout Brandon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,345	From what I've heard, the 14 is faster and tracks better. Makes sense with the longer hull. I know I'm glad I chose the 14

03-30-2015, 07:31 AM	#9
5-20 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 241	I keep on drooling over the 2015 PA14s. Just not really sure yet if I want to get in one for what I could put into a boat.