Looking outside the box..... - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

THE DARKHORSE · 10-25-2008, 10:50 PM

After my last couple of dismal trips fishing La Jolla I've been poking my nose around some of my old stomping grounds. Last week I may have taken my last inshore/offshore trip of the season as the dropping water temps of late have taken the wind out of my sails, literally. Last week during the hot, flat, calm conditions I made a trip outside the 9 mile bank. After reaching my zone 18 miles out on a west southwest track I came across a beautiful paddy, and a stacked meter a hunderd yards up-current. After not seeing any porps schools all day this was a welcomed sight to say the least (even though all reports on local paddies have been dry except a couple random rat-Yellowtail). Right as I'm about to toss a couple of Sardines out and drop my flyline in the water, I see a few live squid shoot across my bow beneath me

, then a lone stragler swim a few feet below the kayak to take a look at me. They were about 15' below, but easy to identify in the clear water, beautiful. This trip was full of healthy Bonita, Blue Sharks, and Mako's to round out the flouro-leader ruining fun

. Every trip so far has had the aid of afternoon wind at my back, but not this time. I found myself still 13 miles from Point Loma, in greasy flat calm conditions, and less than two hours till dark. This wasn't the best scenario, but I felt pretty confident with my extra lights, new "helicopter mango" colored Revo, matching PFD, and internal GPS floating marine radio with position transmitting distress beacon I picked up a couple of months back.

I fished La Jolla for two greylight to greylight sessions last week for every species, but my target Of Yellowtail

. No shortage of bait, that didn't seem to have a care in the world. I couldn't help but think all the Yellowtail have their minds elsewhere, squid. I checked all the deep water squid spots I know, but never found the right signs.

This week when asked about the la jolla fishing conditions, I replied "I'd love to go fishing, but La Jolla is the last place on my mind". The game plan changed to some old stomping grounds, fish a couple of different spots for Yellowtail in the morning, and hunt for some Halibut around lunch time. While my fishing partner and I were wheeling our kayaks to the beach, a surfer asked me "why do you have such big gear"? I replied "because I catch big fish". We made easy bait that consisted of giant horse sardines 9"-11", yes Sardines, and mini-greenies as the sun started to rise. I told my partner to flyline out his first bait and start fishing as we were sitting in the zone of the morning. Thank goodness I didn't take the surfers advice and fish with the bass rod, as my 11" Sardine is slammed while my rod is in my hand.

I'm stoked it's a big fish, but pretty sure it's not my target species.

Even under a heavy load the 80 lb rated rod doesn't bend much.

While the ferocious first strike got my attention, instantly spinning my kayak, and taking me on a sleigh ride, I wasn't too excited. After the first ripping run and popping through a couple of kelp stringers I put the breaks on this fish, as the head shakes were there, but no coveted tail-beets. I started to think about the spotted variety, and after a couple of minutes I'm giving a good morning hug.

The other wrong kind spotted variety, not the Halibut impersonating Leopard Shark.

My partner and I spent the next couple of hours fishing the kelp corners, and donating baits to Bonita. After an early lunch we moved to the Halibut grounds, and were surprised by the visibility as we could see our baits on the bottom. After an hour of sight fishing for Halibut (watching our baits below) I had my first follower, a Halibut that looked just around keeper size, and marked the spot on my GPS (a clue). A couple of minutes later I called over my partner, as I watched a larger definate keeper pounce on my bait then let go, mark #2 on the GPS

. Finding the zone is the challenging part, and I knew putting food on the table wouldn't take too long.

Seared Halibut, served over a bed of roasted garlic and fresh herb enhanced rice, drizzled with a burre blanc, paired with one of my favorite bottles of Chardonnay, yummy!

After Halibut number one was clipped, my partner and I were pretty buisy GPS'ing strikes, watching agressive smaller models chase our baits in the clear water, and releasing a few others to get bigger. Before it was time to go I caught another Halibut that was around the same size and made sure my partner could provide a delicious meal for his family too. It's hard to imagine something more enjoyable than spending some quality time on the water, can't wait till next week.

Handymansd · 10-26-2008, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by THE DARKHORSE

This wasn't the best scenario, but I felt pretty confident with my extra lights, new "helicopter mango" colored Revo, matching PFD, and internal GPS floating marine radio with position transmitting distress beacon I picked up a couple of months back.

steveooo · 10-26-2008, 06:54 AM

I get all excited seeing bendo shots.

linghunter · 10-26-2008, 07:52 AM

Matt · 10-26-2008, 04:14 PM

What no flares?????

h2ofishfo · 10-26-2008, 04:57 PM

what no sea bass tacos & bald eagle wings?? there delish! hey i thought u werent supposed 2 take those things all the way outta the water

sweet job i need bendo soon im feeenin!!!!

Dan · 10-27-2008, 03:52 PM

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/ocal/archives/j_f_05_16-19.pdf

Here's a good document for those who have not yet hooked one of these monsters.

good job on the halibut. way to get out of the box..

THE DARKHORSE · 10-27-2008, 05:14 PM

Dan

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Thanks for the link Dan, plenty of good info there. "If not properly handled", I suppose the argument could be made that any fish would have a better survival rate if the line was cut immedietly, than brought to the surface and removing the hook or jig. For the record, this fish was caught in 35' of water and didn't suffer from depressurization trauma, or being delicately cradled like a baby for a couple of seconds.

screaming reel · 10-27-2008, 06:01 PM

What if a fish caught a human and held them under water for a number of seconds to get a photo - I wonder how that would feel?

I kill fish.

When I catch the Blacks though, I release them in the water as quick as possible; no photo. Get them back down fast. Taking a fish out of the water has to be detrimental to its survival. I remember the first time I caught one, it took me 10 minutes to revive it, stressed me out I thought it was not going to make it. I think cutting the line once you know has lots of merit.

Nice job on the HALIS!

THE DARKHORSE · 10-27-2008, 06:07 PM

The best analogy I ever heard that makes a lot of sense is : "Make your dad run a marathon, and when he crosses the tape hold his head under water for a minute and see what happens".

blackcloud9 · 10-27-2008, 08:28 PM

Nice catch! Hey I know that beach, the water is crystal clear

... That is
truly pre-Darkhorse, old school Josh right there, well, minus a lingcod or
two, and sporting a blingy new ride. I remember you used to CARRY your
kayak down to the sand too. My back hurts just thinking about that.

Yep thinking outside the box will be most important, in time. I should
start.

erinoo · 10-27-2008, 06:09 PM

Come on..get a grip...get a life..theres not to many more yak fisherman or fisherman period, more conservation minded than JP....Eric

forefrazier · 10-28-2008, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erinoo

Come on..get a grip...get a life..theres not to many more yak fisherman or fisherman period, more conservation minded than JP....Eric

What he said!

dos ballenas · 10-28-2008, 08:25 PM

Sorry guys, but with all the recent politics I can't help but voice my opinion somewhere...

Sorry Josh, I respect your fishing skills. I hope you release many more big ones...

and to the rest of ya, sorry guys, but with all the recent politics I had to voice my opinion somewhere, on something

dorado50 · 10-29-2008, 10:11 AM

A new HERO has emerged...

10-25-2008, 10:50 PM	#1
THE DARKHORSE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seven minutes from the launch! Posts: 987	Looking outside the box..... After my last couple of dismal trips fishing La Jolla I've been poking my nose around some of my old stomping grounds. Last week I may have taken my last inshore/offshore trip of the season as the dropping water temps of late have taken the wind out of my sails, literally. Last week during the hot, flat, calm conditions I made a trip outside the 9 mile bank. After reaching my zone 18 miles out on a west southwest track I came across a beautiful paddy, and a stacked meter a hunderd yards up-current. After not seeing any porps schools all day this was a welcomed sight to say the least (even though all reports on local paddies have been dry except a couple random rat-Yellowtail). Right as I'm about to toss a couple of Sardines out and drop my flyline in the water, I see a few live squid shoot across my bow beneath me, then a lone stragler swim a few feet below the kayak to take a look at me. They were about 15' below, but easy to identify in the clear water, beautiful. This trip was full of healthy Bonita, Blue Sharks, and Mako's to round out the flouro-leader ruining fun . Every trip so far has had the aid of afternoon wind at my back, but not this time. I found myself still 13 miles from Point Loma, in greasy flat calm conditions, and less than two hours till dark. This wasn't the best scenario, but I felt pretty confident with my extra lights, new "helicopter mango" colored Revo, matching PFD, and internal GPS floating marine radio with position transmitting distress beacon I picked up a couple of months back. I fished La Jolla for two greylight to greylight sessions last week for every species, but my target Of Yellowtail. No shortage of bait, that didn't seem to have a care in the world. I couldn't help but think all the Yellowtail have their minds elsewhere, squid. I checked all the deep water squid spots I know, but never found the right signs. This week when asked about the la jolla fishing conditions, I replied "I'd love to go fishing, but La Jolla is the last place on my mind". The game plan changed to some old stomping grounds, fish a couple of different spots for Yellowtail in the morning, and hunt for some Halibut around lunch time. While my fishing partner and I were wheeling our kayaks to the beach, a surfer asked me "why do you have such big gear"? I replied "because I catch big fish". We made easy bait that consisted of giant horse sardines 9"-11", yes Sardines, and mini-greenies as the sun started to rise. I told my partner to flyline out his first bait and start fishing as we were sitting in the zone of the morning. Thank goodness I didn't take the surfers advice and fish with the bass rod, as my 11" Sardine is slammed while my rod is in my hand. I'm stoked it's a big fish, but pretty sure it's not my target species. Even under a heavy load the 80 lb rated rod doesn't bend much. While the ferocious first strike got my attention, instantly spinning my kayak, and taking me on a sleigh ride, I wasn't too excited. After the first ripping run and popping through a couple of kelp stringers I put the breaks on this fish, as the head shakes were there, but no coveted tail-beets. I started to think about the spotted variety, and after a couple of minutes I'm giving a good morning hug. The other wrong kind spotted variety, not the Halibut impersonating Leopard Shark. My partner and I spent the next couple of hours fishing the kelp corners, and donating baits to Bonita. After an early lunch we moved to the Halibut grounds, and were surprised by the visibility as we could see our baits on the bottom. After an hour of sight fishing for Halibut (watching our baits below) I had my first follower, a Halibut that looked just around keeper size, and marked the spot on my GPS (a clue). A couple of minutes later I called over my partner, as I watched a larger definate keeper pounce on my bait then let go, mark #2 on the GPS. Finding the zone is the challenging part, and I knew putting food on the table wouldn't take too long. Seared Halibut, served over a bed of roasted garlic and fresh herb enhanced rice, drizzled with a burre blanc, paired with one of my favorite bottles of Chardonnay, yummy! After Halibut number one was clipped, my partner and I were pretty buisy GPS'ing strikes, watching agressive smaller models chase our baits in the clear water, and releasing a few others to get bigger. Before it was time to go I caught another Halibut that was around the same size and made sure my partner could provide a delicious meal for his family too. It's hard to imagine something more enjoyable than spending some quality time on the water, can't wait till next week. __________________ Last edited by THE DARKHORSE; 10-25-2008 at 11:57 PM.

10-26-2008, 07:52 AM	#4
linghunter skunk Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 61	Got a new ride I see.

10-26-2008, 04:14 PM	#5
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	What no flares????? __________________ Thanks Matt F.

10-27-2008, 05:14 PM	#8
THE DARKHORSE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seven minutes from the launch! Posts: 987	Great link..... Dan . Thanks for the link Dan, plenty of good info there. "If not properly handled", I suppose the argument could be made that any fish would have a better survival rate if the line was cut immedietly, than brought to the surface and removing the hook or jig. For the record, this fish was caught in 35' of water and didn't suffer from depressurization trauma, or being delicately cradled like a baby for a couple of seconds. __________________ Last edited by THE DARKHORSE; 10-27-2008 at 05:58 PM.

10-27-2008, 06:07 PM	#10
THE DARKHORSE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seven minutes from the launch! Posts: 987	My favorite..... The best analogy I ever heard that makes a lot of sense is : "Make your dad run a marathon, and when he crosses the tape hold his head under water for a minute and see what happens". __________________

10-26-2008, 06:54 AM	#3
steveooo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,921	I get all excited seeing bendo shots.

10-26-2008, 04:57 PM	#6
h2ofishfo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santee Posts: 821	what no sea bass tacos & bald eagle wings?? there delish! hey i thought u werent supposed 2 take those things all the way outta the water sweet job i need bendo soon im feeenin!!!!

10-27-2008, 03:52 PM	#7
Dan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,053	http://www.dfg.ca.gov/ocal/archives/j_f_05_16-19.pdf Here's a good document for those who have not yet hooked one of these monsters. good job on the halibut. way to get out of the box..

10-27-2008, 06:01 PM	#9
screaming reel Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 24	What if a fish caught a human and held them under water for a number of seconds to get a photo - I wonder how that would feel? I kill fish. When I catch the Blacks though, I release them in the water as quick as possible; no photo. Get them back down fast. Taking a fish out of the water has to be detrimental to its survival. I remember the first time I caught one, it took me 10 minutes to revive it, stressed me out I thought it was not going to make it. I think cutting the line once you know has lots of merit. Nice job on the HALIS!

10-27-2008, 08:28 PM	#11
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	Nice catch! Hey I know that beach, the water is crystal clear ... That is truly pre-Darkhorse, old school Josh right there, well, minus a lingcod or two, and sporting a blingy new ride. I remember you used to CARRY your kayak down to the sand too. My back hurts just thinking about that. Yep thinking outside the box will be most important, in time. I should start. __________________ Larry. Hobie Revolution 13. 25 years of kayak fishing La Jolla. https://larryl.com/photos

10-27-2008, 06:09 PM	#12
erinoo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Carlsbad,,Halfway up the Hill Posts: 485	Come On Come on..get a grip...get a life..theres not to many more yak fisherman or fisherman period, more conservation minded than JP....Eric

10-28-2008, 08:25 PM	#14
dos ballenas Vampyroteuthis infernalis Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 585	My Bad Sorry guys, but with all the recent politics I can't help but voice my opinion somewhere... Sorry Josh, I respect your fishing skills. I hope you release many more big ones... and to the rest of ya, sorry guys, but with all the recent politics I had to voice my opinion somewhere, on something __________________ ____________________________________________

10-29-2008, 10:11 AM	#15
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	A new HERO has emerged...