Making bait for lobster - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

jbm · 10-19-2010, 10:23 AM

I was kind of curious about something. Does anybody ever just bring a sabiki out with them to make bait before dropping your nets? Is it just too much gear on your kayak? Macks aren't worth using as bait? Some kind of regulation preventing it? Too difficult to work a sabiki in the grey or after dark?

Jimmyz123 · 10-19-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jbm

I was kind of curious about something. Does anybody ever just bring a sabiki out with them to make bait before dropping your nets? Is it just too much gear on your kayak? Macks aren't worth using as bait? Some kind of regulation preventing it? Too difficult to work a sabiki in the grey or after dark?

When my dad and I use to go out it was easier to attach a can of cat food to the bottom of the net with holes punched into the can. Macs and Bonita are great for lobster if you can get some at that time.

flydigital · 10-19-2010, 11:32 AM

Macs are just fine for lobster. I usually carry out a sibiki with me hooping and try to catch a few as extra bait or for next time. The bait tends to be real hard to make after dark but sunset works good (sometimes!).

Hooping takes alot of bait especially if you are doing it often with 5 nets. I try to keep every bit of bait I come across, i.e. used bait from fishing, ask buddies to hold onto their macs or bonito they catch, etc, to help keep the total cost down....

cjthomas · 10-19-2010, 11:34 AM

It can be done, but it will take some time to get enough macs. I had a $0 trip last week thanks to the sabiki.

jbm · 10-19-2010, 11:40 AM

If you make bait fishing out in La Jolla, and decide to bring it back with you, do you need to kill it before paddling through the reserve? Aren't there some rules against possessing in the reserve or bringing on shore live fish?

Sorry for the noob questions. I did try searching here with no luck on this topic.

jorluivil · 10-19-2010, 05:45 PM

I save myself the time and just buy the bait, I can overstuff all five cages with Salmon heads for under $10. Occasionally, I'll find both Yellowtail and Bonito heads for $.99/lb....they're hard to come buy but I do find them from time to time. The fish market where I get my bait will give me their scraps(guts, gills, tails..etc) for free if I ask for them.

twitchy · 10-19-2010, 06:47 PM

Which market do you go to, if I might be so bold and ask the question.

jorluivil · 10-19-2010, 06:57 PM

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Which market do you go to, if I might be so bold and ask the question.

Its in Cerritos down the street from the Cerritos Mall (605 and 91)....unless you're coming this way its probably best to look for an asian market in your area.

twitchy · 10-19-2010, 07:03 PM

Awesome, thanks for the heads up.

SGV Rookie · 10-19-2010, 10:21 PM

I did something different this year! Went to balboa pier with two rods, homemade chum and lots of sabikis. Chummed the water and averaged four macs per retrieve. Got several neighboring fisherman and kids interested and my bucket became the mackerel lobster bait depository! Good times and the kids that started catching was priceless. Sure it cost a few "loaner" sabikis but it got the job done.

Jzo · 10-20-2010, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

I save myself the time and just buy the bait.

X2.

Aaron · 10-20-2010, 07:00 AM

I may be mistaken but I feel like I've heard/read that if you are hooping for lobster that you are not allowed to have rods and reels on the boat. I could swear that I've heard of people getting written up for this...am I wrong? I'm much too lazy to just look it up.

jbm · 10-20-2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron

I may be mistaken but I feel like I've heard/read that if you are hooping for lobster that you are not allowed to have rods and reels on the boat. I could swear that I've heard of people getting written up for this...am I wrong? I'm much too lazy to just look it up.

Yes, I thought I saw that somewhere as well. But I can't find it in the regs.

flydigital · 10-20-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jbm

Yes, I thought I saw that somewhere as well. But I can't find it in the regs.

I found a reference to diving only:

(g) Diving for crustaceans: In all ocean waters, except as provided in Section 29.05, skin and SCUBA divers may take crustaceans by the use of the hands only. Divers may not possess any hooked device while diving or attempting to dive.

Aaron · 10-20-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by flydigital

I found a reference to diving only:

(g) Diving for crustaceans: In all ocean waters, except as provided in Section 29.05, skin and SCUBA divers may take crustaceans by the use of the hands only. Divers may not possess any hooked device while diving or attempting to dive.

I believe that is different...what they are talking about there is a "tickle stick". You can't use a spear, a pole, or anything else to coax them out of their holes.

T Bone · 10-20-2010, 06:20 PM

mops work great for this ...

10-19-2010, 10:23 AM	#1
jbm Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Escondido<->Carlsbad Posts: 81	Making bait for lobster I was kind of curious about something. Does anybody ever just bring a sabiki out with them to make bait before dropping your nets? Is it just too much gear on your kayak? Macks aren't worth using as bait? Some kind of regulation preventing it? Too difficult to work a sabiki in the grey or after dark?

10-19-2010, 10:21 PM	#10
SGV Rookie Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Gabriel Valley Posts: 89	Pier fishing I did something different this year! Went to balboa pier with two rods, homemade chum and lots of sabikis. Chummed the water and averaged four macs per retrieve. Got several neighboring fisherman and kids interested and my bucket became the mackerel lobster bait depository! Good times and the kids that started catching was priceless. Sure it cost a few "loaner" sabikis but it got the job done.

10-20-2010, 06:20 PM	#16
T Bone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 871	mops work great for this ... __________________ Barachit Baralah,Elohim-In the beginning,God-Genesis 1:1 "Who among you,if your son asked for a fish would give them a serpent " Jesus Matt. 7:10

10-19-2010, 11:32 AM	#3
flydigital Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 192	Macs are just fine for lobster. I usually carry out a sibiki with me hooping and try to catch a few as extra bait or for next time. The bait tends to be real hard to make after dark but sunset works good (sometimes!). Hooping takes alot of bait especially if you are doing it often with 5 nets. I try to keep every bit of bait I come across, i.e. used bait from fishing, ask buddies to hold onto their macs or bonito they catch, etc, to help keep the total cost down....

10-19-2010, 11:34 AM	#4
cjthomas Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 108	It can be done, but it will take some time to get enough macs. I had a $0 trip last week thanks to the sabiki.

10-19-2010, 11:40 AM	#5
jbm Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Escondido<->Carlsbad Posts: 81	If you make bait fishing out in La Jolla, and decide to bring it back with you, do you need to kill it before paddling through the reserve? Aren't there some rules against possessing in the reserve or bringing on shore live fish? Sorry for the noob questions. I did try searching here with no luck on this topic.

10-19-2010, 05:45 PM	#6
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,855	I save myself the time and just buy the bait, I can overstuff all five cages with Salmon heads for under $10. Occasionally, I'll find both Yellowtail and Bonito heads for $.99/lb....they're hard to come buy but I do find them from time to time. The fish market where I get my bait will give me their scraps(guts, gills, tails..etc) for free if I ask for them.

10-19-2010, 06:47 PM	#7
twitchy Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 61	Which market do you go to, if I might be so bold and ask the question.

10-19-2010, 07:03 PM	#9
twitchy Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 61	Awesome, thanks for the heads up.

10-20-2010, 07:00 AM	#12
Aaron Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 175	I may be mistaken but I feel like I've heard/read that if you are hooping for lobster that you are not allowed to have rods and reels on the boat. I could swear that I've heard of people getting written up for this...am I wrong? I'm much too lazy to just look it up.