Stoppd by the DFG

[Matt]

Before you get dudes in trouble and call the "cops" or DFG please remember that the world HATES SNITCHES!! and Mlpa supporters

[lbsurf2ca]

Oh man... please delete this post immediately!

[mbaha]

THANK YOU BOB!!!
I get pissed about those POACHERS every time I drive down prospect. I have been meaning to take pictures from shore, where you clearly see they are POACHING and send them to DFG. Calling Cal-Tip has never worked for me. Did you get the name of either warden? It would be nice to follow up and make sure the POACHING stops.

Thank you for being steward of our natural resources.

:notwor thy::cheer s1:

[T Bone]

My brother is a sportboat Capt At Davies Locker (Freelance and Bongos)and knows many commercial lobster fisherman.No one is more fudgepacked than them on all of this since most of these MPA's are inshore reef areas and not vast expanse of sandy beach that doesnt hold much if any lobster.

[roadx]

Bob you have gave a lot of good suggestions and tips but this is not right. what the hell were you thinking?

jealously is a terrible thing. YOU cant do it, so no one can mentality is destroying this country.

[mbaha]

Originally Posted by roadx

Bob you have gave a lot of good suggestions and tips but this is not right. what the hell were you thinking?

jealously is a terrible thing. YOU cant do it, so no one can mentality is destroying this country.

Err when it is against the law then yes no one should do it. Plus for every lobster they steal that is one less for the law abiding citizens. I'm surprised to see the honorable kayak guys so pro-POACHING.

[mazilla]

Originally Posted by mbaha

Err when it is against the law then yes no one should do it. Plus for every lobster they steal that is one less for the law abiding citizens. I'm surprised to see the honorable kayak guys so pro-POACHING.

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
-Thomas Jefferson

[Matt]

I don't think anyone is "pro poaching" but everyone here is outraged at the unjust process that the Mlpa was forced upon us. Zero current research was used and so many back room deals were cut it was insane. Not "pro poaching" just anti bullshit!

[bellcon]

I saw the lobster pots yesterday; there is a line of them just outside the "old" boundary, so yes they are in the "new" boundary.

This is NOT about "honorable kayak guys so pro-POACHING"
it is about kayak guys who fought so hard against the f-ing sham of a process called the mlpa, that illegally took some of best fishing spots up and down the California coast!.

It is also about the relationships kayakers, spearos and the commercials tried to develop during the process, to do what we could together to stop the Bullchit train that was bent on running us over.

Like Bob I will always do what I can to stop poaching when I see it.
I will also abide by their new regs and mpa boundaries.
BUT I will NOT help the DFG or anyone else enforce the new MPA's!
F-them and their new boundaries.

It would be awesome if when those buoys are pulled up,
they are connected to a big rock with a note that says:
F--- the MLPA!.


PS
Can we just delete this post forever?
I doubt it will help our cause or look good for us in the long run...

[Billy V]

I fished N/W La Jolla 4 times in the last 2 weeks on my boat, and I know exactly where the GPS boundaries are. I also fished Torry Pines, and S. La Jolla on a commercial boat with a GPS Overlay of the reserves on the chart plotter and still did not see any lobster traps inside a reserve.

I did not see a single lobster buoy in the new reserve.

Incase you did not know - the lobsterman may legally set their traps right up to the GPS line, if the buoy is dragged inside the reserve by the tide or current, the trap is still legal. The measurement is taken from where the cage lies on the ocean floor.
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To jump to a conclusion, and sound the General Alarm is just plain wrong.
-Would you react with such conviction in other matters of Law ?

We sure could have used such dedication while fighting the Illegal and Corrupt Blue Ribbon Task Force. Its right there on YouTube for you to see. Listen to the BRTF Lie about their ownership of Marinas, How they governed themselves as bound by the brown act, the fuel docks they own and much more.

Meg Caldwell gets a little wet in her pp at the mere mention of the letters mlpa. Those are the real outlaws, the real violators. The ones who bent you over and stole your ocean, then shoved their fist straight up your arse.
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I question your judgement and reaction on the DFG tipster incident without having fully known what was legal or illegal. Everyone here will suffer the consequences of this action - Regardless if you were right or wrong.

[mbaha]

Originally Posted by Billy V

I fished N/W La Jolla 4 times in the last 2 weeks on my boat, and I know exactly where the GPS boundaries are. I also fished Torry Pines, and S. La Jolla on a commercial boat with a GPS Overlay of the reserves on the chart plotter and still did not see any lobster traps inside a reserve.

I did not see a single lobster buoy in the new reserve.

Incase you did not know - the lobsterman may legally set their traps right up to the GPS line, if the buoy is dragged inside the reserve by the tide or current, the trap is still legal. The measurement is taken from where the cage lies on the ocean floor.
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To jump to a conclusion, and sound the General Alarm is just plain wrong.
-Would you react with such conviction in other matters of Law ?

We sure could have used such dedication while fighting the Illegal and Corrupt Blue Ribbon Task Force. Its right there on YouTube for you to see. Listen to the BRTF Lie about their ownership of Marinas, How they governed themselves as bound by the brown act, the fuel docks they own and much more.

Meg Caldwell gets a little wet in her pp at the mere mention of the letters mlpa. Those are the real outlaws, the real violators. The ones who bent you over and stole your ocean, then shoved their fist straight up your arse.
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I question your judgement and reaction on the DFG tipster incident without having fully known what was legal or illegal. Everyone here will suffer the consequences of this action - Regardless if you were right or wrong.

Billy, come sit at Alligator head for 1/2 hour and you will see POACHERS setting and retrieving lobster pots right against the southern most buoys, which is INSIDE the new reserve.

Maybe I'll take some pictures on Monday so we can all see them POACHING

[mbaha]

So we are all clear, the POACHERS are POACHING in the south eastern most part of the red area in the below image. You all know where the southern buoys are nearest the cove and how they made a dog leg. Now the line has been straightened out but the buoys have not moved. The POACHERS are going hog wild in their own private lobster area right in front of our face.

[Billy V]

My next trip is later this week.

I will look in the area you mentioned, as well as the other areas that I intend to fish.

[mbaha]

Originally Posted by Billy V

My next trip is later this week.

I will look in the area you mentioned, as well as the other areas that I intend to fish.

Thank you.

[Podaker]

Speechless......

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by Billy V

Incase you did not know - the lobsterman may legally set their traps right up to the GPS line, if the buoy is dragged inside the reserve by the tide or current, the trap is still legal. The measurement is taken from where the cage lies on the ocean floor.

That's a very good point!!!