Tis the Season: Remix - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

dorado50 · 04-30-2014, 07:45 PM

When I enter a port where I have not fished before(and have little knowledge of the waters) the first thing I do the following day is find the most reputable fishing guide money can buy. Not only can you now navigate the waters safely but you can go out and catch fish using that particular areas most productive fishing rigs. I can now go out and catch fish safely without being stressed about navigation and wondering where the fish are. Money well spent in my opinion.

Dannowar · 04-30-2014, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dorado50

When I enter a port where I have not fished before(and have little knowledge of the waters) the first thing I do the following day is find the most reputable fishing guide money can buy. Not only can you now navigate the waters safely but you can go out and catch fish using that particular areas most productive fishing rigs. I can now go out and catch fish safely without being stressed about navigation and wondering where the fish are. Money well spent in my opinion.

Which is perfectly fine. Until you post about it multiple times and try and tell the rest of us that "they're out there"

My point is not being decoded. I'm not insulting the guide service or anyone paying to be guided.

I'm not posting anymore. I'm going fishing

makobob · 04-30-2014, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dannowar

Which is perfectly fine. Until you post about it multiple times and try and tell the rest of us that "they're out there"

My point is not being decoded. I'm not insulting the guide service or anyone paying to be guided.

I'm not posting anymore. I'm going fishing

Hope to see you Saturday fishing for our HERO'S on the WATER.

Dannowar · 04-30-2014, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by makobob

Hope to see you Saturday fishing for our HERO'S on the WATER.

If my schedule permits I would love to Bob

Aaron&Julie · 05-02-2014, 02:42 AM

We can see both sides to this debate...Julie and I are so old-school we started out on the old Indian rafts used over a hundred years ago at the launch in La Jolla.
The new generation may look at our setups and get confused by it all.

Q: What's that white 5 gallon bucket used for?
A: To keep our bait alive all day.

Q: Where are your pedals and Mirage drive?
A: We use the backup system, aka paddles, which get us from here to there.

Q: Where's your fish finder located?
A: We enjoy the hunt without one, we hit the locations we recall over the last nearly 10 years, watch the birds, look for boils, baitballs, or even groups of fishermen that may be on a good bite. No fish caught once in awhile is alright by us, it makes the days you score much more rewarding.

To each their own. We're closer to the frame of mind of Dannowar, when you start doing this sport from the bottom up, there's a certain satisfaction that individuals who paid their way up to the top of the learning curve won't understand, trial-trial-trial and error-error-error. But, when you finally get the hang of it, through trials and tribulations there's that certain extra feeling of reward, that you did all on your own, and it goes deep into the mind and soul.

Now, don't get us wrong, in our roots we did receive emails and messages from a few guys that certainly helped. It's just we never became a barnacle to the more experienced and successful fishing 'yakers by following them everywhere they went to mooch off of their success. Now, of course if you spot a bendo, you'd be stupid not to circle that area hoping to score too, as long as you give the person with a fish plenty of room to land his prize. We've had barnacles over the years, and we've had idiots come within 15-20 feet of us, when we're clearly fighting the right kind.

But we do have much more respect for the person that's willing to rough it, so to speak, learning until they get it down, and put in the time necessary to get there, over those that want to score right away and learn all the tricks they can through their pocketbook. We don't blame them, it's just that sometimes while learning the speedy process, they might also miss out on the guides etiquette rules, focusing more on the "how to" and "where are they at" lessons.

dorado50 · 04-30-2014, 08:37 PM

I do know where your coming!. Believe me I know exactly what's going on here! I would /could post about the same things you have said but.........

I think your opinion is valid

The OP is a newer guy and very stoked(nothing wrong with that at all) but perhaps "over coached".

momo fish · 04-30-2014, 08:41 PM

So going to LJ next weekend, want to show me around and share some tips as I'm new to that area?

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Originally Posted by Dannowar

Which is perfectly fine. Until you post about it multiple times and try and tell the rest of us that "they're out there"

My point is not being decoded. I'm not insulting the guide service or anyone paying to be guided.

I'm not posting anymore. I'm going fishing

jorluivil · 04-30-2014, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dannowar

Which is perfectly fine. Until you post about it multiple times and try and tell the rest of us that "they're out there"

My point is not being decoded. I'm not insulting the guide service or anyone paying to be guided.

I'm not posting anymore. I'm going fishing

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Originally Posted by momo fish

So going to LJ next weekend, want to show me around and share some tips as I'm new to that area?

Newbie here

What's LJ stand for? Is that a secret fishing spot? Never been there before......can I join you guys next week

momo fish · 04-30-2014, 10:31 PM

Was the landing that hard? Lol

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

Newbie here

What's LJ stand for? Is that a secret fishing spot? Never been there before......can I join you guys next week

kluts · 05-01-2014, 04:29 AM

Obviously guides dont care when you post about the bite,why should they?it just makes them more money.If you`ve fished La Jolla 5 times and watched others catch fish,the answers are right there in front of you,isnt that how you got that yellow?no? a guided fish also? La Jolla is one place you wont need a guide,you wont get lost,stay with the herd, Me?I wont need a guide dog unless im blind.So unless your afraid your gonna get lost or are blind,leave the guide dog at home and keep your eyes and ears open and save your money

GR6RR · 05-01-2014, 09:40 AM

Let's put all this to rest and go.....

I myself, am sorry for instigating the subject.

driftwood · 05-01-2014, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannowar

Which is perfectly fine. Until you post about it multiple times and try and tell the rest of us that "they're out there"

My point is not being decoded. I'm not insulting the guide service or anyone paying to be guided.

I'm not posting anymore. I'm going fishing

Guide or no guide I say bring it! No matter how you slice it, a picture of a big White Sea Bass sure does motivate us to go fishing.

Whether "they're out there" or not. I'm there tomorrow....Wind warning is gone.

05-02-2014, 02:42 AM	#5
Aaron&Julie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Spring Valley Posts: 1,400	We can see both sides to this debate...Julie and I are so old-school we started out on the old Indian rafts used over a hundred years ago at the launch in La Jolla. The new generation may look at our setups and get confused by it all. Q: What's that white 5 gallon bucket used for? A: To keep our bait alive all day. Q: Where are your pedals and Mirage drive? A: We use the backup system, aka paddles, which get us from here to there. Q: Where's your fish finder located? A: We enjoy the hunt without one, we hit the locations we recall over the last nearly 10 years, watch the birds, look for boils, baitballs, or even groups of fishermen that may be on a good bite. No fish caught once in awhile is alright by us, it makes the days you score much more rewarding. To each their own. We're closer to the frame of mind of Dannowar, when you start doing this sport from the bottom up, there's a certain satisfaction that individuals who paid their way up to the top of the learning curve won't understand, trial-trial-trial and error-error-error. But, when you finally get the hang of it, through trials and tribulations there's that certain extra feeling of reward, that you did all on your own, and it goes deep into the mind and soul. Now, don't get us wrong, in our roots we did receive emails and messages from a few guys that certainly helped. It's just we never became a barnacle to the more experienced and successful fishing 'yakers by following them everywhere they went to mooch off of their success. Now, of course if you spot a bendo, you'd be stupid not to circle that area hoping to score too, as long as you give the person with a fish plenty of room to land his prize. We've had barnacles over the years, and we've had idiots come within 15-20 feet of us, when we're clearly fighting the right kind. But we do have much more respect for the person that's willing to rough it, so to speak, learning until they get it down, and put in the time necessary to get there, over those that want to score right away and learn all the tricks they can through their pocketbook. We don't blame them, it's just that sometimes while learning the speedy process, they might also miss out on the guides etiquette rules, focusing more on the "how to" and "where are they at" lessons. __________________ "Never say die"

05-01-2014, 04:29 AM	#10
kluts Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 33	guides Obviously guides dont care when you post about the bite,why should they?it just makes them more money.If you`ve fished La Jolla 5 times and watched others catch fish,the answers are right there in front of you,isnt that how you got that yellow?no? a guided fish also? La Jolla is one place you wont need a guide,you wont get lost,stay with the herd, Me?I wont need a guide dog unless im blind.So unless your afraid your gonna get lost or are blind,leave the guide dog at home and keep your eyes and ears open and save your money

05-01-2014, 09:40 AM	#11
GR6RR Lucky Fisher Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: too far inland Posts: 366	Let's put all this to rest and go..... I myself, am sorry for instigating the subject. __________________

04-30-2014, 07:45 PM	#1
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	When I enter a port where I have not fished before(and have little knowledge of the waters) the first thing I do the following day is find the most reputable fishing guide money can buy. Not only can you now navigate the waters safely but you can go out and catch fish using that particular areas most productive fishing rigs. I can now go out and catch fish safely without being stressed about navigation and wondering where the fish are. Money well spent in my opinion.

04-30-2014, 08:37 PM	#6
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	I do know where your coming!. Believe me I know exactly what's going on here! I would /could post about the same things you have said but......... I think your opinion is valid The OP is a newer guy and very stoked(nothing wrong with that at all) but perhaps "over coached".