MLPA Meeting Sept. 10th - Page 3 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

steveooo · 08-31-2009, 08:01 AM

In.

LipYanker · 08-31-2009, 08:37 AM

Do you have the Times?

LipYanker · 08-31-2009, 08:39 AM

What is the start time for the meeting?

LipYanker · 08-31-2009, 08:43 AM

Oops, Disregard those time questions... I did a closer inspection of the thread. Have to sneak in reads while at "work". Free bump anyway.

Holy Mackerel · 08-31-2009, 09:41 AM

Here is the full agenda, I put up a new thread, but now figure everyone is looking here...

Questions:

1. WHEN will we be able to see detailed maps of the (draft) revised proposals so that we can comment on specifics??

2. Will there be a new member of the BRTF now that DB resigned?

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meeting_091009.asp

California Marine Life Protection Act Initiative
South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group
Draft Meeting Agenda
(revised August 28, 2009)
* This facility is accessible to persons with disabilities. To request reasonable accommodations for a disability,
please contact California Relay Service (at least two days prior to the meeting) at 800.735.2929 (TTY) or

Wednesday, September 9, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Thursday, September 10, 2009 at 8:00 AM
Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles
6101 W. Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90045

Public Participation: Members of the public are invited to attend the meeting in person or may view and listen to the meeting via simultaneous webcasting on the Internet. Video and audio archives of the meeting may be accessed via the Internet approximately one day after the meeting. Please visit the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp for more information.

Public Comment: The public will be invited to provide general comment on subjects related to the work of the MLPA South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group (SCRSG) at approximately 9:00 AM on Thursday, September 10, 2009. Speaker cards are requested and may be found at the entrance to the room. Time allotted for public comment is determined by the number of requests and can range from one to three minutes per comment; submitting written comments that can be easily summarized in one to two minutes is encouraged. Note that the public comment period is for comments specific to the SCRSG; comments related to the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force, science advisory team, or other MLPA Initiative activities should be directed to those bodies or MLPA staff.

Meeting materials will not be provided at the meeting but will be posted to the MLPA website as soon as they are available. This agenda may be found on the MLPA website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp

Meeting Objectives
• Provide an opportunity for the SCRSG to review and discuss the near final draft MPA proposals
• Develop final round of marine protected area (MPA) proposals to be forwarded to the MLPA Master Plan Science Advisory Team (SAT) and MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF)
• Discuss next steps for presenting the final round of MPA proposals to the BRTF

Meeting Agenda – 7:00 PM Wednesday, September 9, 2009
Welcome, Agenda Review and Brief Introductions
I. Draft Final Round 3 MPA Proposals
A. Presentation of Draft Final SCRSG MPA Proposals by Work Groups
Recess

Meeting Agenda – Thursday, September 10, 2009
Note: The SCRSG will hear public comment at approximately 9:00 a.m. and will break for lunch at approximately 12:00 p.m.

Welcome, Agenda Review and Brief Introductions
II. Updates
B. MLPA Master Plan Science Advisory Team
BRIEFING DOCUMENT B.1: Memo on Persistent and Maximum Kelp – Handout Placeholder
C. MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force
D. MLPA South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group

BRIEFING DOCUMENT D.1: Key Outcomes Memorandum from the August 3, 2009 SCRSG Meeting – Handout Placeholder
E. Public Outreach and Education
BRIEFING DOCUMENT E.1: Suggestions for Effective Public Comment – Handout Placeholer

III. Final SCRSG MPA Proposals for Round 3
F. Guidance for Completing Round 3 Proposals
G. Preparing for MPA Proposal Presentations to the BRTF

Recess – Work Group Breakout Sessions
IV. Final MPA Proposals
H. Presentation of Final SCRSG MPA Proposals by Work Groups
V. Closing Comments
Adjourn

bellcon · 08-31-2009, 10:00 AM

BUMP
You know
reading all the fishing reports from LJ and Alaska (you know who you are)lately is killing me
(first yellow, personal best, double hook ups, multiple fish)
The "voices in my head" are saying go go go
My time will come

But you know what is REALLY killing me
the lack of guys committed to the SEPT. 10th. meeting

We have 21 guys on the list at Baytubers
Deduct a couple from that (Chris and Shaggy...)
and we have a pitiful 18-19 guys???

How many here?

All we have to offer are our
Time, Talents or Treasure
What are you putting up?

Thanks to the guys pushing the meetings.
Thanks to the guys working behind the scenes.
Thanks to the guys donating $.
Thanks to the guys attending who dont post.
Thanks to the guys who will make this their FIRST meeting.

Fug the rest of you

This meeting is in LA, I know thats a long drive for many of you
Just pretend you live in LA and are making the long drive to a hot bite at LJ

,

zenspearo · 08-31-2009, 08:32 PM

It's my wife's birthday but I'll be there.

It's either face the wrath at home for a day, or regret for a lifetime that I didn't do all I could.

Tman · 09-01-2009, 10:02 AM

Part of me is sick of dealing with this nonsense, part of me wants to truly express my thoughts in the 30-second time span of 'extensive public input', and part of me knows this is for the sake of future generations...

I'll be there.

LipYanker · 09-01-2009, 10:08 AM

Well Gents, I put in my request for the day off. We'll see how that goes, I dont see any reason why I wont be able to show up and support. I dont see myself speaking but hopefully my "menacing" presence will help.

Holy Mackerel · 09-01-2009, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LipYanker

Well Gents, I put in my request for the day off. We'll see how that goes, I dont see any reason why I wont be able to show up and support. I dont see myself speaking but hopefully my "menacing" presence will help.

Thank you very much for sacrificing a precious vacation day! I know it definately sucks to use them for this!! I am sure you will be rewarded with some Karma:

Quote:

Originally Posted by LipYanker

hopefully my "menacing" presence will help.

btw, I am sure you are joking, but put on a smile while at the meeting. We need to maintain professionalism, albeit, very difficult once you view the circus for the first time.

thanks again... and....

BUMP!!!!

C. Cary · 09-01-2009, 12:18 PM

Count me in.

I definitely want to get on a carpool.

C. Cary

Holy Mackerel · 09-03-2009, 07:45 AM

BUMP!

nunyabizness1 · 09-03-2009, 04:59 PM

Get in on the action! Attend the awareness event this weekend and join in the caravan of trucks and boats on trailers with posters and banners as we Join in with your yak on your vehicle! We all need to be a part of this!

Check out the link for info and post on the thread below that you will be there:

http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...ml#post1467282

Is that clear enough?

The MLPA process is almost over and it’s not looking good for the fisherman by ANY measure. TO BE CLEAR, if you are a fishermen this IS going to change where you fish and what you catch for the WORSE. This WILL put landings, tackle stores, marinas and charter boats out business. This WILL take jobs from honest, hardworking people who do what they love for a living.

What can you do?

There are two more KEY dates left in this battle. It’s NOT too late. YOU can still make a difference.

We need YOU. YES YOU! Plain and simple we need BODIES to win this battle.

The first event you can attend is your local AWARENESS RALLY. There are currently three of these organized for this Saturday September 5, 2009. PLEASE come out and bring your trailer boat, kayak, etc. with you for a PEACEFULL drive around your local Marinas and Launch Areas. There will be flyers, stickers and banners available to dress your vehicles up for the rally. PLEASE make every effort to attend and GET YOUR BUDDIES involved.

Here are links to the events:

San Diego -
http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...-5-2009-a.html (San Diego area MLPA "Awareness Event" Sat. Sept 5, 2009)

Meet at South Shores Boat Launch at 9 am. We will leave at 10 am, hit Dana Landing and Shelter Island along the way and return to South Shores for a BBQ/Potluck. Caravan Leaders: Maggie aka Nunyabizness1 and Mike aka Mikeylikesit

Orange County –
http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...-sept-5th.html (Orange County MLPA "Awareness Event" Sept. 5TH)

Meet at Glenn's Tackle Shop parking lot - 1145 Baker Street, Costa Mesa at 9:00 am and leave by 10 am sharp. Caravan Leaders: Bobby Gowin and Paul Romanowski

Los Angeles –
http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...ember-5-a.html (Los Angeles Area MLPA "Awareness Event" September 5)

Meet at the Belmont Shores Pool Parking Lot, Belmont, CA at 9:30 am. We will leave at 10 am sharp and end the caravan event at Marina Del Rey Boat Launch for a BBQ/Potluck event! Caravan Leader: Dean Morrow aka Bank Robber

Please visit this thread to sign up for the potluck by location: http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/fi...ml#post1467092 (MLPA Event--TAILGATERS)

These Rallys are all to raise awareness for the LAST PUBLIC MLPA MEETING on September 10, 2009 . IF YOU ONLY DO ONE THING for the MLPA battle, PLEASE BE AT THIS MEETING.

Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles
6101 W. Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90045

If you would like to learn more about the MLPA Process, please see www.YesFishing.org

If you would like to discuss the MLPA and get up to the minute news, please see Marine Life Protection Act Initiative (MLPA) -

I know a lot of you are BURNT on the MLPA issue (myself included!) but this is the final stretch and we need one last push! The awesome angler turn out at the Santa Ana meetings truly made an impact. It’s time to make ourselves seen and heard AGAIN.

Thanks very much for your support.

Ali Hussainy
Bloodydecks, LLC

Gino · 09-03-2009, 05:03 PM

Im in i could use a carpool!! i live right near the 405! will pitchin for gas!

nunyabizness1 · 09-03-2009, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gino

Im in i could use a carpool!! i live right near the 405! will pitchin for gas!

Post on the thread link for the location you are interested in... hopefully you can find a carpool!

Stoneale · 09-04-2009, 10:45 AM

Hi, this is my first post. I have been browsing the forums for sometime now. I don't even have a kayak yet, but I fish every other day in the Dana Point harbor.

Anyway.. Does a blue SMCA spot mean we can still fish in that area? Or..

Thanks.

Holy Mackerel · 09-04-2009, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoneale

Hi, this is my first post. I have been browsing the forums for sometime now. I don't even have a kayak yet, but I fish every other day in the Dana Point harbor.

Anyway.. Does a blue SMCA spot mean we can still fish in that area? Or..

Thanks.

Please attend this meeting on the 10th, and you will meet a lot people there to answer your questions. It is never too late to get started in this process, hope to see you there.

FWIW:

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/defs.asp#smca

State Marine Conservation Area [36700(c) PRC]

A "state marine conservation area," is a non-terrestrial marine or estuarine area that is designated so the managing agency may achieve one or more of the following:

protect or restore rare, threatened or endangered native plants, animals or habitats in marine areas;
protect or restore outstanding, representative or imperiled marine species, communities, habitats and ecosystems;
protect or restore diverse marine gene pools;
contribute to the understanding and management of marine resources and ecosystems by providing the opportunity for scientific research in outstanding, representative or imperiled marine habitats or ecosystems;
preserve outstanding or unique geological features; or
provide for sustainable living marine resource harvest.

Restrictions [36710(c) PRC]: it is unlawful to injure, damage, take or posses any specified living, geological or cultural marine resources for certain commercial, recreational, or a combination of commercial and recreational purposes. In general, any commercial and/or recreational uses that would compromise protection of the species of interest, natural community, habitat or geological features may be restricted by the designating entity or managing agency.

Allowable uses [36710(c) PRC]: research, education and recreational activities, and certain commercial and recreational harvest of marine resources may be permitted.

Stoneale · 09-04-2009, 12:53 PM

Wow.. so I guess blue means no fishing as well. When they say Dana Point, I wonder if this would include the harbor too.

I will be there to help fight this.. I guess I will hold off on buying a kayak for now. No point in buying one if I cant even go out and fish in it.

You can bet the MLPA's are going to pass. These rich people who want this to pass have probably never spent anytime fishing or diving and can really care less about the economy or the hobbie.

tylerdurden · 09-07-2009, 07:14 PM

bump.

Blue does not always mean no fishing. Every blue zone is different. Some allow all take of finfish for recreational anglers.

SeaDog · 09-09-2009, 10:44 PM

bump

08-31-2009, 08:37 AM	#42
LipYanker Have rods, will travel! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 40	Do you have the Times? __________________ Tight Lines HJL "LipYanker"

08-31-2009, 08:39 AM	#43
LipYanker Have rods, will travel! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 40	What is the start time for the meeting? __________________ Tight Lines HJL "LipYanker"

08-31-2009, 08:43 AM	#44
LipYanker Have rods, will travel! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 40	Oops, Disregard those time questions... I did a closer inspection of the thread. Have to sneak in reads while at "work". Free bump anyway. __________________ Tight Lines HJL "LipYanker"

08-31-2009, 10:00 AM	#46
bellcon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Pedro Posts: 999	BUMP You know reading all the fishing reports from LJ and Alaska (you know who you are)lately is killing me (first yellow, personal best, double hook ups, multiple fish) The "voices in my head" are saying go go go My time will come But you know what is REALLY killing me the lack of guys committed to the SEPT. 10th. meeting We have 21 guys on the list at Baytubers Deduct a couple from that (Chris and Shaggy...) and we have a pitiful 18-19 guys??? How many here? All we have to offer are our Time, Talents or Treasure What are you putting up? Thanks to the guys pushing the meetings. Thanks to the guys working behind the scenes. Thanks to the guys donating $. Thanks to the guys attending who dont post. Thanks to the guys who will make this their FIRST meeting. Fug the rest of you This meeting is in LA, I know thats a long drive for many of you Just pretend you live in LA and are making the long drive to a hot bite at LJ,

08-31-2009, 08:32 PM	#47
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	It's my wife's birthday but I'll be there. It's either face the wrath at home for a day, or regret for a lifetime that I didn't do all I could. __________________ A spearo, but we are in this MLPA mess together

08-31-2009, 08:01 AM	#41
steveooo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,921	In.

08-31-2009, 09:41 AM	#45
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Here is the full agenda, I put up a new thread, but now figure everyone is looking here... Questions: 1. WHEN will we be able to see detailed maps of the (draft) revised proposals so that we can comment on specifics?? 2. Will there be a new member of the BRTF now that DB resigned? http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meeting_091009.asp California Marine Life Protection Act Initiative South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group Draft Meeting Agenda (revised August 28, 2009) * This facility is accessible to persons with disabilities. To request reasonable accommodations for a disability, please contact California Relay Service (at least two days prior to the meeting) at 800.735.2929 (TTY) or Wednesday, September 9, 2009 at 7:00 PM Thursday, September 10, 2009 at 8:00 AM Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles 6101 W. Century Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90045 Public Participation: Members of the public are invited to attend the meeting in person or may view and listen to the meeting via simultaneous webcasting on the Internet. Video and audio archives of the meeting may be accessed via the Internet approximately one day after the meeting. Please visit the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp for more information. Public Comment: The public will be invited to provide general comment on subjects related to the work of the MLPA South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group (SCRSG) at approximately 9:00 AM on Thursday, September 10, 2009. Speaker cards are requested and may be found at the entrance to the room. Time allotted for public comment is determined by the number of requests and can range from one to three minutes per comment; submitting written comments that can be easily summarized in one to two minutes is encouraged. Note that the public comment period is for comments specific to the SCRSG; comments related to the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force, science advisory team, or other MLPA Initiative activities should be directed to those bodies or MLPA staff. Meeting materials will not be provided at the meeting but will be posted to the MLPA website as soon as they are available. This agenda may be found on the MLPA website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp Meeting Objectives • Provide an opportunity for the SCRSG to review and discuss the near final draft MPA proposals • Develop final round of marine protected area (MPA) proposals to be forwarded to the MLPA Master Plan Science Advisory Team (SAT) and MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF) • Discuss next steps for presenting the final round of MPA proposals to the BRTF Meeting Agenda – 7:00 PM Wednesday, September 9, 2009 Welcome, Agenda Review and Brief Introductions I. Draft Final Round 3 MPA Proposals A. Presentation of Draft Final SCRSG MPA Proposals by Work Groups Recess Meeting Agenda – Thursday, September 10, 2009 Note: The SCRSG will hear public comment at approximately 9:00 a.m. and will break for lunch at approximately 12:00 p.m. Welcome, Agenda Review and Brief Introductions II. Updates B. MLPA Master Plan Science Advisory Team BRIEFING DOCUMENT B.1: Memo on Persistent and Maximum Kelp – Handout Placeholder C. MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force D. MLPA South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group BRIEFING DOCUMENT D.1: Key Outcomes Memorandum from the August 3, 2009 SCRSG Meeting – Handout Placeholder E. Public Outreach and Education BRIEFING DOCUMENT E.1: Suggestions for Effective Public Comment – Handout Placeholer III. Final SCRSG MPA Proposals for Round 3 F. Guidance for Completing Round 3 Proposals G. Preparing for MPA Proposal Presentations to the BRTF Recess – Work Group Breakout Sessions IV. Final MPA Proposals H. Presentation of Final SCRSG MPA Proposals by Work Groups V. Closing Comments Adjourn

09-01-2009, 10:02 AM	#48
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Part of me is sick of dealing with this nonsense, part of me wants to truly express my thoughts in the 30-second time span of 'extensive public input', and part of me knows this is for the sake of future generations... I'll be there. __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

09-01-2009, 10:08 AM	#49
LipYanker Have rods, will travel! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 40	Well Gents, I put in my request for the day off. We'll see how that goes, I dont see any reason why I wont be able to show up and support. I dont see myself speaking but hopefully my "menacing" presence will help. __________________ Tight Lines HJL "LipYanker"

09-01-2009, 12:18 PM	#51
C. Cary Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Carmel Valley Posts: 104	Count me in. I definitely want to get on a carpool. C. Cary

09-03-2009, 07:45 AM	#52
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	BUMP!

09-03-2009, 04:59 PM	#53
nunyabizness1 Maggie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nunya Posts: 126	Get in on the action! Attend the awareness event this weekend and join in the caravan of trucks and boats on trailers with posters and banners as we Join in with your yak on your vehicle! We all need to be a part of this! Check out the link for info and post on the thread below that you will be there: http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...ml#post1467282 Is that clear enough? The MLPA process is almost over and it’s not looking good for the fisherman by ANY measure. TO BE CLEAR, if you are a fishermen this IS going to change where you fish and what you catch for the WORSE. This WILL put landings, tackle stores, marinas and charter boats out business. This WILL take jobs from honest, hardworking people who do what they love for a living. What can you do? There are two more KEY dates left in this battle. It’s NOT too late. YOU can still make a difference. We need YOU. YES YOU! Plain and simple we need BODIES to win this battle. The first event you can attend is your local AWARENESS RALLY. There are currently three of these organized for this Saturday September 5, 2009. PLEASE come out and bring your trailer boat, kayak, etc. with you for a PEACEFULL drive around your local Marinas and Launch Areas. There will be flyers, stickers and banners available to dress your vehicles up for the rally. PLEASE make every effort to attend and GET YOUR BUDDIES involved. Here are links to the events: San Diego - http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...-5-2009-a.html (San Diego area MLPA "Awareness Event" Sat. Sept 5, 2009) Meet at South Shores Boat Launch at 9 am. We will leave at 10 am, hit Dana Landing and Shelter Island along the way and return to South Shores for a BBQ/Potluck. Caravan Leaders: Maggie aka Nunyabizness1 and Mike aka Mikeylikesit Orange County – http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...-sept-5th.html (Orange County MLPA "Awareness Event" Sept. 5TH) Meet at Glenn's Tackle Shop parking lot - 1145 Baker Street, Costa Mesa at 9:00 am and leave by 10 am sharp. Caravan Leaders: Bobby Gowin and Paul Romanowski Los Angeles – http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...ember-5-a.html (Los Angeles Area MLPA "Awareness Event" September 5) Meet at the Belmont Shores Pool Parking Lot, Belmont, CA at 9:30 am. We will leave at 10 am sharp and end the caravan event at Marina Del Rey Boat Launch for a BBQ/Potluck event! Caravan Leader: Dean Morrow aka Bank Robber Please visit this thread to sign up for the potluck by location: http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/fi...ml#post1467092 (MLPA Event--TAILGATERS) These Rallys are all to raise awareness for the LAST PUBLIC MLPA MEETING on September 10, 2009 . IF YOU ONLY DO ONE THING for the MLPA battle, PLEASE BE AT THIS MEETING. Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles 6101 W. Century Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90045 If you would like to learn more about the MLPA Process, please see www.YesFishing.org If you would like to discuss the MLPA and get up to the minute news, please see Marine Life Protection Act Initiative (MLPA) - I know a lot of you are BURNT on the MLPA issue (myself included!) but this is the final stretch and we need one last push! The awesome angler turn out at the Santa Ana meetings truly made an impact. It’s time to make ourselves seen and heard AGAIN. Thanks very much for your support. Ali Hussainy Bloodydecks, LLC Last edited by nunyabizness1; 09-03-2009 at 06:07 PM.

09-03-2009, 05:03 PM	#54
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 520	Im in i could use a carpool!! i live right near the 405! will pitchin for gas!

09-04-2009, 10:45 AM	#56
Stoneale Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 117	Hi, this is my first post. I have been browsing the forums for sometime now. I don't even have a kayak yet, but I fish every other day in the Dana Point harbor. Anyway.. Does a blue SMCA spot mean we can still fish in that area? Or.. Thanks.

09-04-2009, 12:53 PM	#58
Stoneale Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 117	Wow.. so I guess blue means no fishing as well. When they say Dana Point, I wonder if this would include the harbor too. I will be there to help fight this.. I guess I will hold off on buying a kayak for now. No point in buying one if I cant even go out and fish in it. You can bet the MLPA's are going to pass. These rich people who want this to pass have probably never spent anytime fishing or diving and can really care less about the economy or the hobbie.

09-07-2009, 07:14 PM	#59
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	bump. Blue does not always mean no fishing. Every blue zone is different. Some allow all take of finfish for recreational anglers. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

09-09-2009, 10:44 PM	#60
SeaDog Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Orange County Posts: 47	bump