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Old 05-17-2018, 11:04 AM   #1
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Anyone whom poaches knowingly and is prosecuted should be banned from ever obtaining a recreational license of any type in their lifetime..
I agree with this. I wouldn't let my children play at a convicted sex offender's house once his "debt" is paid.
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Old 05-18-2018, 06:16 AM   #2
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I agree with this. I wouldn't let my children play at a convicted sex offender's house once his "debt" is paid.
And neither would I. I also probably would not knowingly let a previous poacher store his catch in my cooler. But if the bait works, it works. So he poached, and paid his debt. That shouldn't mean that he should not be able to operate a business.

I would support legislation that restricted a convicted poacher's ability to get a fishing/hunting license for a period of time. Not that many poachers give crap about being licensed, anyway. I see people taking short fish on the piers all the time. Usually because of ignorance, but most unlicensed fisherman have not taken the time to know what is what and when what fish can be taken.

Some dude was going to keep an 2 foot Leo, in San Clem the other day. I let him know, with as few curse words as possible, that he needed to throw that fish back ASAP. He told me there was no size limit on Leos. I told him to throw it back, then look it up. ANd that If I was wrong, I would buy him a case of beer. He tossed it back and we parted ways. About an hour later he walked back by me, and dropped off a six pack of Ballast Point Sculipn IPA, as a way to say thanks for the info. Then I told him alcohol was not allowed on the pier. Just kidding, I didn't say that last part.....
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Old 05-18-2018, 06:50 AM   #3
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I havent tried them personally but as a bass/artificial lure focused angler, I know there is a ton of hype behind the brand.

Would I decide to buy a product based on the history behind the proprietor? Possibly. But I guarantee a lot of Americans are blind to the past of A LOT of the business and people they support. Case and point: Donald.
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:31 AM   #4
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I havent tried them personally but as a bass/artificial lure focused angler, I know there is a ton of hype behind the brand.

Would I decide to buy a product based on the history behind the proprietor? Possibly. But I guarantee a lot of Americans are blind to the past of A LOT of the business and people they support. Case and point: Donald.
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Old 05-18-2018, 06:53 AM   #5
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Angels...

Boy Oh Boy...there must be a lot of Angels out there that have never done anything wrong in their lives...I'd like to meet a few of you perfect people...!!!

Never speed, steal, lie, cheat on your taxes, or waste the resources...Yea Right...!!!

This guy poached...He didn't sell drugs, beat someone up, murder someone or steal a car...he poached and payed his dues and he's trying to make a successful business! Give the guy a break or don't buy his product...it's as simple as that...NO NEED TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE...!!!
What is up with some of you guys...you are obviously, way more Holy than me...?!

Thanks GoldenGlory... X2 "But I guarantee a lot of Americans are blind to the past of A LOT of the business and people they support."
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:09 AM   #6
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Considering this is a fishermans forum with a sport we all hold dear to our hearts I am surely not surprised that poaching is a sore spot for all of us. To disregard that in this forum is more surprising then to take it to heart.



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Boy Oh Boy...there must be a lot of Angels out there that have never done anything wrong in their lives...I'd like to meet a few of you perfect people...!!!

Never speed, steal, lie, cheat on your taxes, or waste the resources...Yea Right...!!!

This guy poached...He didn't sell drugs, beat someone up, murder someone or steal a car...he poached and payed his dues and he's trying to make a successful business! Give the guy a break or don't buy his product...it's as simple as that...NO NEED TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE...!!!
What is up with some of you guys...you are obviously, way more Holy than me...?!

Thanks GoldenGlory... X2 "But I guarantee a lot of Americans are blind to the past of A LOT of the business and people they support."
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:25 AM   #7
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I fish 120 and deeper. My truck is more with the fact that it’s a 4 ounce jig that costs $20. Gtfo.

To those of you snidely lambasting Denis for somewhat innocuously starting a conversation without any real commentary, you realize you’re doing the exact thing you’re giving him shit for, right? You realize that, right? Right?

Online forums have their tropes in spades... You’re being one. Don’t be that guy. It makes it less fun for the rest of us.
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:33 AM   #8
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Also since we are on a forum for sportsmen, I’m sure we have no shortage of libertarians here :-)

Capitalist society, guys. When you start a business, you build a brand.
You market that brand. That brand sells your product.

Your brand is subject to scrutiny. I say scrutinize away.

Personally, I don’t fish with poachers. I think it’s an easy choice to make and I think it can be telling of character.

I’m not here to pass judgment on the guy who owns the company, but I’m damn sure not here to pass judgment on the guy who shared the information about the guy who owns the company.
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Old 12-02-2018, 02:39 AM   #9
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Boy Oh Boy...there must be a lot of Angels out there that have never done anything wrong in their lives...I'd like to meet a few of you perfect people...!!!

Never speed, steal, lie, cheat on your taxes, or waste the resources...Yea Right...!!!

This guy poached...He didn't sell drugs, beat someone up, murder someone or steal a car...he poached and payed his dues and he's trying to make a successful business! Give the guy a break or don't buy his product...it's as simple as that...NO NEED TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE...!!!
What is up with some of you guys...you are obviously, way more Holy than me...?!

Thanks GoldenGlory... X2 "But I guarantee a lot of Americans are blind to the past of A LOT of the business and people they support."

No offense Jim but I notice the CCA backs him HUGE. How can a company that supports conservation support a guy that took his kids poaching and submitted poached deer as records in other states not to mention the book of fishing violations he was charged with and plead down? I understand the holier than thou argument, but the argument that has nobody else done anything wrong in their lives is a bit off. Do people lie on their taxes sure. Is that on the same level as taking kids poaching multiple times evading Wardens, lying about it, then on top submit said poached deer as records?!?! So here’s a question should we let the guy that was caught back east cheating in the KBF series back into the KBF? I mean all he did was have multiple modified bump boards and stole thousands of dollars in tournament winnings. Should we forgive and forget and let him back into the series?
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