Patience - Page 2 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

momo fish · 04-02-2014, 08:23 AM

Thanks all as I look to all you experts first for advise.

I was wondering cause although I have only flipped once I thought it was all about speed and powering through the waves while keeping straight. My old stealth was heavy enough to break through waves up to 5 foot. Could just be my luck/fear and respect everytime I launch that has kept me from flipping often. I launch mostly from county line and it's hardly ever easy and wish I could understand waves better.

So even landing better to take out? My plan was to keep drive in but use paddle in hand in case I need to back up. And then paddle hard in front of wave. Jump out once in 4 feet and grab front.

If this sounds stupid please let me know as everything makes sense when it's in your head like jumping off the 2nd floor of house into a pile of snow as a kid. Broken ankle later I learned the lesson.

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rhyak · 04-02-2014, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by momo fish

Thanks all as I look to all you experts first for advise.

I was wondering cause although I have only flipped once I thought it was all about speed and powering through the waves while keeping straight. My old stealth was heavy enough to break through waves up to 5 foot. Could just be my luck/fear and respect everytime I launch that has kept me from flipping often. I launch mostly from county line and it's hardly ever easy and wish I could understand waves better.

So even landing better to take out? My plan was to keep drive in but use paddle in hand in case I need to back up. And then paddle hard in front of wave. Jump out once in 4 feet and grab front.

If this sounds stupid please let me know as everything makes sense when it's in your head like jumping off the 2nd floor of house into a pile of snow as a kid. Broken ankle later I learned the lesson.

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Th only problem is the rudders do not want to stay strait if your hand is not on it especially with currents pushing it which ever way it wants.

Would be better to just power through at that point with the drive in if you so choose paddle secured and hand on rudder control.

Can always try it, ive done that in the past.

Rhyak

FISH11 · 04-02-2014, 12:59 PM

I guess that's the difference with us non-Hobie kayakers. Since we use nothing but a paddle, we have more strength and confidence when paddling. Watching the video I kept saying to my self "Go Dude Go Go Go. The waves where coming in sets of 3s the frequency was definitely no fun since it was 3 to 5 second apart. When I've had to go out in that, I watch the timing. I go to knee deep water hold the kayak from the side next to the seat let a set pass the when the first 2 waves in the next set break, I jump on and start paddling as fast as I can (using deep powerful strokes). By the time you cross the first 2 they are like nothing and the 3rd is braking out in front, that allows you to go over with out much problem. I some cases you go over before it breaks. Yeah, Your going to get wet, but you get past them in no time. If I was in a Hobie I would have the drive in and the pedals aprt so the fins are against the hull, Once I was at or through the 3rd wave then I would start using the pedals as well. Shortly after you could stop using the hand paddle and worry about the rudder. The hand Paddle allows you to keep the Kayak aimed correctly at the on coming waves, the back current between waves makes the rudder useless. I seemed like there where several failed attempts due to the waves hitting at an angle and driving the Kayak backwards. I can't believe you kept at it for 45 minutes. You should get an award for that and for sharing you experience. That would make me super tired. I bet when you finally made it out, it gave you a large sense of accomplishment. Usually it's the landing that's the video moment.

cesar74 · 04-02-2014, 02:49 PM

PEDAL to the METAL !!!

Hobie Outback
Drive in w/bungee
Rudder up
Knee high water
Paddle in hand
Wait for a lull
Jump in & give it hell (pedal) & use my paddle to steer & stay perpendicular.
Don't forgot to tie all your gear down.
Rudder comes down after I'm passed the breaking waves.

04-02-2014, 12:59 PM	#3
FISH11 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Pine Valley when not fishing La Jolla Posts: 2,638	I guess that's the difference with us non-Hobie kayakers. Since we use nothing but a paddle, we have more strength and confidence when paddling. Watching the video I kept saying to my self "Go Dude Go Go Go. The waves where coming in sets of 3s the frequency was definitely no fun since it was 3 to 5 second apart. When I've had to go out in that, I watch the timing. I go to knee deep water hold the kayak from the side next to the seat let a set pass the when the first 2 waves in the next set break, I jump on and start paddling as fast as I can (using deep powerful strokes). By the time you cross the first 2 they are like nothing and the 3rd is braking out in front, that allows you to go over with out much problem. I some cases you go over before it breaks. Yeah, Your going to get wet, but you get past them in no time. If I was in a Hobie I would have the drive in and the pedals aprt so the fins are against the hull, Once I was at or through the 3rd wave then I would start using the pedals as well. Shortly after you could stop using the hand paddle and worry about the rudder. The hand Paddle allows you to keep the Kayak aimed correctly at the on coming waves, the back current between waves makes the rudder useless. I seemed like there where several failed attempts due to the waves hitting at an angle and driving the Kayak backwards. I can't believe you kept at it for 45 minutes. You should get an award for that and for sharing you experience. That would make me super tired. I bet when you finally made it out, it gave you a large sense of accomplishment. Usually it's the landing that's the video moment. __________________ MARK ......... 2016 MALIBU X FACTOR, 2020 SOLO SKIFF (Fishing Kayak on Steroids )

04-02-2014, 08:23 AM	#1
momo fish Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Camarillo Posts: 1,491	Thanks all as I look to all you experts first for advise. I was wondering cause although I have only flipped once I thought it was all about speed and powering through the waves while keeping straight. My old stealth was heavy enough to break through waves up to 5 foot. Could just be my luck/fear and respect everytime I launch that has kept me from flipping often. I launch mostly from county line and it's hardly ever easy and wish I could understand waves better. So even landing better to take out? My plan was to keep drive in but use paddle in hand in case I need to back up. And then paddle hard in front of wave. Jump out once in 4 feet and grab front. If this sounds stupid please let me know as everything makes sense when it's in your head like jumping off the 2nd floor of house into a pile of snow as a kid. Broken ankle later I learned the lesson. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04-02-2014, 02:49 PM	#4
cesar74 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ventura,CA Posts: 81	PEDAL to the METAL !!! Hobie Outback Drive in w/bungee Rudder up Knee high water Paddle in hand Wait for a lull Jump in & give it hell (pedal) & use my paddle to steer & stay perpendicular. Don't forgot to tie all your gear down. Rudder comes down after I'm passed the breaking waves.