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Old 09-04-2013, 11:56 AM   #1
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It happens...

So I'm out this morning making squid in the skiff and my outboard dies at idle, it then becomes difficult to start. I get it running do another drift and it dies again. At this point I put down my kicker and it won't start at all. It takes maybe fifteen minutes to get the outboard running again, and I headed in. At the ramp I could not even get it restarted to put it on the trailer.

Just put 40 bucks of gas in the thing, but I figure with both motors it's got to be bad fuel. I can't remember the last time technical problems forced me off the water. Should of gone Kayaking.

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Old 09-04-2013, 12:07 PM   #2
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Bummer, can happen to anyone, Check filters and take a close look at the tank, with this hot HUMID weather it might be condensed water in the fuel tank. Keep tank full and that will not happen.
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:08 PM   #3
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yea > kayaks are definitely the way to go now....

Yea I heard Fukushima’s radioactive water was beginning to cause outboard motor problems off the San Diego Coast...
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:22 PM   #4
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Point being...............?
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Old 09-04-2013, 01:19 PM   #5
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I think it's operator error....or maybe it's the radiation....nah...operator error
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Old 09-04-2013, 01:43 PM   #6
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the same thing happen to me just a week ago Jim. The first thing that came out of my mouth was....."The sky is falling, the sky is falling, meterors are falling every day"

So now radiation is in our fuel production?

Sorry Jim couldn't help myself

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Old 09-04-2013, 02:04 PM   #7
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Here's what I think happened




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Old 09-04-2013, 02:30 PM   #8
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So I'm out this morning making squid in the skiff and my outboard dies at idle, it then becomes difficult to start. I get it running do another drift and it dies again. At this point I put down my kicker and it won't start at all. It takes maybe fifteen minutes to get the outboard running again, and I headed in. At the ramp I could not even get it restarted to put it on the trailer.

Just put 40 bucks of gas in the thing, but I figure with both motors it's got to be bad fuel. I can't remember the last time technical problems forced me off the water. Should of gone Kayaking.
We always used Berrymans B12 Chemtool in the gas tanks of our boat's inboard and outboard motors to get rid of moisture and keep the fuel system clean.

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Old 09-04-2013, 03:22 PM   #9
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Didn't miss anything

You didn't miss anything...my kayak ran great...I made a bunch of squid that will be Calamari dinner tonight...one huge Bat Ray a couple of nice Sandies, a few Bonito and No big fat butts !
I take it you didn't get very far south from MDR?
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:58 PM   #10
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Surely you and your super cool psychologist friend
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:10 PM   #11
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So I'm out this morning making squid in the skiff and my outboard dies at idle, it then becomes difficult to start.

That's really a great feat that you were able to make squid!

Your motor sounds like it will likely be a plugged fuel intake.

Just my take.
Jay

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Old 09-04-2013, 04:11 PM   #12
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That's really a great feat, that you were able to make squid!

Your motor sounds like it will likely be a plugged fuel intake.

Just my take.
Jay
Excellent observation Jay. If there is anyone that knows motors, it is certainly you!
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:11 PM   #13
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Excellent observation Jay. If there is anyone that knows motors, it is certainly you!
Thank you! It is nice to be appreciated!

Just my take.
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Thank you! It is nice to be appreciated!
I can't think of anyone that deserves to be appreciated more than you Jay!
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:37 PM   #15
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That's really a great feat that you were able to make squid!

Your motor sounds like it will likely be a plugged fuel intake.

Just my take.
Jay

WOW!!! Finally, someone that really knows what they're talking about.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:42 PM   #16
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this calls for a brainstorming session!!!

Jay you think it is a concurrent plugged fuel intake in both the main outboard and also the kicker - less than a 3.5% probability of that being the root cause. I think you need to get inside bubble boy's bubble and do some brainstorming with him ...2 clues...Japanese Radioactive water and the Cerenkov effect that Jorge mentioned are the key to figuring out what happened to these motors... now get to work on this!!!
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:23 PM   #17
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Did you try pulling the ropy thingy with a handle on top of the motor?




If it goes wrooom, wrooom then your motor is running.




If there is no wroooom wrooom sound and no smoke then your motor no working.




I am 100 % sure about my advice.
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:49 PM   #18
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:09 PM   #19
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I'm going with scales in the water intake due to that
crappy bait Insein Bait Co sales, everybody knows that
theres no squid in santa monica bay.
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