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Old 04-04-2011, 11:31 AM   #21
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The following is a link to "THE ULTIMATE YARDSALE"

This forever changed my views toward landing in the surf

One tip I will give you is leave the water in your bait tank The ballast will help you out.I had drained my tank and had a monster fish in my lap in Med-Heavy surf.I have since landed in bigger surf with water in the tank and it helps.I lost some very high end gear.That Shimano Calcutta rod is now a cult classic,they were made in washington and go for big bucks when they come up for sale.Not to mention losing 2 2spd avets a brand new diawa sealine and a graphite usa rod and my glasses.I figure about a $2K loss.lesson learned.I rod podded my big game and can get 8'ers in there and leash the 90J.Big Thanks to the BWE community for offering all the loaner gear.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...imate+yardsale

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Old 04-05-2011, 07:00 AM   #22
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I wonder if it is worth snorkeling the area in search for lost gear? Of course you'll need to be able to dive deep enough to retrieve some of it.
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Old 04-05-2011, 08:16 AM   #23
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I thought about doing that, but with all those waves it would be hard and the water would be all dirty from the tide and sand.


I just said Ill have to take a loss. Ill never find anthing, the bums have a much better chance of finding things that kayakers have lost since they spend all their time trolling the beach.

Plus, depending on what you have lost the time we have on the water is very valuable too. Do you want to spend what little time you have fishing or do you want to have a 1% chance of snorkeling for your lost gear.
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:41 AM   #24
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Man, if I get skunked one more time, I am going to have a big ol' yard sale. Oh wait, you are talking about a different kind of yard sale. Do what Joe says, go surf it for a while. It is a heck of a lot of fun and an incredible learning experience. While you are waiting for waves, see how far you can lean before you roll, how to correct a roll, see if you can stand up, kneel down, reach the bow and stern, etc. It will pay off huge and increase your comfort level a ton.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:53 AM   #25
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I think I just discovered an unorthodox style of surf landing on a yak. For several months I've been thinking about how to prevent getting that yard sale (getting tossed) and today when I was about to land at LJ I decided to finally give my idea a try. As soon as I got close to the area where the waves were cresting I flip the yak around and paddled backwards, this allowed me to see all the waves as they were building, cresting and breaking. I had two waves come in that I know would make me surf, and probably get tossed. When these two waves hit I was able to slightly paddle forward and once the wave passed me I started to paddle backwards again.......worked better than expected.

This is actually a really good way to handle larger surf. I saw a guy at LJ in a sit-inside yak do the same thing. As he got to the surf line he spun the kayak so the bow faced the waves and backed in. The bow sliced cleanly through the incoming waves. When he got the sand he stepped out of the cockpit as if there had been no waves at all.

If you have a yak with peddles or a rudder, you will probably want to secure those in the up position before trying this trick.

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Old 04-05-2011, 11:32 AM   #26
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You mean like This.... ? . Risky stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ac6zpUad84
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Old 04-05-2011, 01:40 PM   #27
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You mean like This.... ? . Risky stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ac6zpUad84
Yes and No. Once you see the wave coming you need to paddle forward, the guy in the video paddled backwards, twice.
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Old 04-05-2011, 01:58 PM   #28
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The following is a link to "THE ULTIMATE YARDSALE"

This forever changed my views toward landing in the surf

One tip I will give you is leave the water in your bait tank The ballast will help you out.I had drained my tank and had a monster fish in my lap in Med-Heavy surf.I have since landed in bigger surf with water in the tank and it helps.I lost some very high end gear.That Shimano Calcutta rod is now a cult classic,they were made in washington and go for big bucks when they come up for sale.Not to mention losing 2 2spd avets a brand new diawa sealine and a graphite usa rod and my glasses.I figure about a $2K loss.lesson learned.I rod podded my big game and can get 8'ers in there and leash the 90J.Big Thanks to the BWE community for offering all the loaner gear.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...imate+yardsale

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...imate+yardsale
just read your previous post. great fish!!
how is Dylan? hope that everything turned out okay.....
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Old 04-05-2011, 02:14 PM   #29
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You mean like This.... ? . Risky stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ac6zpUad84
I think I'll keep my nose pointed at the beach, I like to see where I'm going when a wave is pushing me. If you keep your down hill edge up while sliding down the wave you should be able to surf it in without getting rolled. If you let that downhill edge down you will roll.
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Old 04-05-2011, 02:19 PM   #30
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You mean like This.... ? . Risky stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ac6zpUad84


OMG THAT WAS ALMOST LIKE MY FLIP LAST SATURDAY!!! EXCEPT I was facing the beach and the kayak flipped over my head as I flew forward WITH A 5 ft surf and ended up in 4 ft of water. Any closer and i think my rods would of broken. I am going to walmart today to buy some pool noodles. (just like that guy who put his rods on the noodles as he took off and landed.)

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Old 04-05-2011, 02:39 PM   #31
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Tommy,I know I shouldn't reply here because now its gonna happen... I have been lucky enough to have never flipped. If I'm worried I go in facing the beach but keep my legs out the sides to slow myself down then try to catch the back of the wave in. If it looks too big I just do A uturn in my truck and don't go out. Now that I have a Hobie its not as easy as when I had a prowler and stowed everything.
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:23 PM   #32
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Dylan is 7 months Cancer free.Thank you Jesus!
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:28 PM   #33
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Dylan is 7 months Cancer free.Thank you Jesus!
Praise God for this blessing for you and your family.
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:35 PM   #34
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I keep the front of my kayak pointed toward the beach, but my attention toward the oncoming swell/waves. If I am going to catch a wave big enough to pearl me, then I back paddle through it. Everything else can be handled by my paddle and or legs over the sides. For the really nasty stuff, I take my camera to the beach and wait for someone else to provide my $10,000 Americas Funniest Video entry.
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I found this video: I did it all wrong!!! You are suppose to lean into the wave!!!!

No wonder i totally flipped!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPL1vPW25kg


and this is what not to do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j2pD_TXFb8&NR=1
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I found this video: I did it all wrong!!! You are suppose to lean into the wave!!!!

No wonder i totally flipped!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPL1vPW25kg


and this is what not to do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j2pD_TXFb8&NR=1
Both of those, in my opinion, are must watches for anyone who is going to surf launch and land. Jim knows what he's talking about, and has been doing this longer than most of us, so listening to him is a very good idea.
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Old 04-06-2011, 07:23 AM   #37
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I flipped a year ago with my son sleeping in the front, messed up situation, my fault, i got so into trying to get a lure from being stuck on the bottom I started rocking the boat without realizing it and when the line snapped, wow it went over the other way really fast. I did learn some tricks about tying your gear down the hard way, i caught my son first and then my best pole, lost everything else. I'm not a real good kayaker or fisherman, adds to the experience though
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Old 04-06-2011, 07:51 AM   #38
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Frank,
always always lean into it dig the paddle in to, you can put your feet
out if you feel like it is sketchy, that will stabalize you a bit more, and always exit the yak sea side, never beach side...sorry about the yard sale,
no one ever expects to have one but like everyone has said, be prepared to have one and it won't be so costly...
the hat, damn that was your lucky hat...a staple, but look at it this way, now you can start over, I think a pink feather in the new hat would be cool....lol
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Frank,
always always lean into it dig the paddle in to, you can put your feet
out if you feel like it is sketchy, that will stabalize you a bit more, and always exit the yak sea side, never beach side...sorry about the yard sale,
no one ever expects to have one but like everyone has said, be prepared to have one and it won't be so costly...
the hat, damn that was your lucky hat...a staple, but look at it this way, now you can start over, I think a pink feather in the new hat would be cool....lol

The only hat i have left is this one!!

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Old 04-06-2011, 08:55 AM   #40
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Frank,
always always lean into it
I'm no expert at surf landings. I will agree with mtnbykr2, because there was one time I was being pushed to the sand by a wave, kayak parallel to the beach. I leaned into it so much that my ear and shoulder were getting wet - but, I didn't flip - I was surprised. Wished there was a video of that landing.
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