Kayak launching sites - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

old_rookie · 07-19-2010, 08:39 PM

Here is a view of Sunset Cliffs park which they indicate is a launch area - oh look, I do see a launch ramp!!

http://www.californiacoastline.org/c...gs=0&year=2004

dmrides · 07-19-2010, 09:04 PM

I have launched several times from Orchard and Bermuda streets. It is a pain in the ass, sketchy and almost not worth the difficulty. It can really only be done a few days a year at mid to high tide with very little swell. Proceed with caution.

roadx · 07-20-2010, 06:09 AM

the kayak toboggan launch ramp

hahaha

Quote:

Originally Posted by old_rookie

Here is a view of Sunset Cliffs park which they indicate is a launch area - oh look, I do see a launch ramp!!

http://www.californiacoastline.org/c...gs=0&year=2004

rogersmith · 07-20-2010, 12:08 PM

it gets more absurd by the day

tony · 07-20-2010, 01:40 PM

That's a typo on that map. They meant to say Kayak Lunched.....Looks like a good way to eat it.
Oh wait .....here's how you do it.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKmAvRYDHW8

taggermike · 07-25-2010, 11:06 AM

I think the important part of those alledged launch sights is that they are at Sunset CLIFFS. Emphasis on the word cliffs. I guess any thing is possible but you better have your skills together and a strong back. I've launched all over So Cal, from south IB to the trails in Laguna Beach, and I wouldn't recomend that area. Mike

PAL · 07-26-2010, 06:12 PM

Pretty funny stuff here.

I can shed some light on these. They are launch sites for some people. I've used two of them - Helo drive, where were you? But there's definitely context missing in the MLPA map these came from, which makes it look like all of these are equally good.

When we were gearing up for our attempt to survive the MLPA, we started with with a mapping project called the KFACA Launch Sites List.

If you go back two or three years, you'll find the invite posts. We asked everyone from pros to kayak fishing newbies to tell us where they fished. This was way before Ecotrust, for kayak anglers by kayak anglers only.

We wanted to document everything, so that we could demonstrate ANY impact. Even if it hit one guy's secret spot, I wanted to know. We also distinguished between Primary sites such as La Jolla, Dana Pt, etc that we'd go to the wall to keep open, and secondary, little-used 'pirate' launches like these.

There's was another strategic side to this. Every user group was expected to sacrifice - to get hurt by losing access. We prefered to give up places like these, not La Jolla or Dana Pt. If I'd have gotten out of the RSG with only secondary sites on the chopping block, it would have been a huge victory.

Of course, that's not what happened. The Malibu guys are set to lose their La Jolla equivalent. At PV, the local kayak guys sacrificed a brand new access point at Terranea in order to keep peace with other fishing allies. Otherwise we it could have been much worse.

I hope that makes sense.

TheBentRod · 07-26-2010, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAL

Pretty funny stuff here.

Of course, that's not what happened. The Malibu guys are set to lose their La Jolla equivalent. At PV, the local kayak guys sacrificed a brand new access point at Terranea in order to keep peace with other fishing allies. Otherwise we it could have been much worse.

I hope that makes sense.

What is the Malibu equivalent to La Jolla? I am new to this, please let me know.

dsafety · 07-26-2010, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAL

Pretty funny stuff here.

Otherwise we it could have been much worse.

I hope that makes sense.

Nope! Not to me.

None of this makes any sense to me. How can it be sensible to disregard the science, or the economic impact. Having long ago lost faith in most of our elected officials the only thing I can hold on to is the power of money.

The fact that there are no funding sources for MLPA implementation at the moment may well be our only hope in the short term. This may delay things for a while but not forever.

We need a backup plan.

Bob

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07-19-2010, 08:39 PM	#1
old_rookie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Santee Posts: 904	Here is a view of Sunset Cliffs park which they indicate is a launch area - oh look, I do see a launch ramp!! http://www.californiacoastline.org/c...gs=0&year=2004

07-19-2010, 09:04 PM	#2
dmrides Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Point Loma Posts: 584	I have launched several times from Orchard and Bermuda streets. It is a pain in the ass, sketchy and almost not worth the difficulty. It can really only be done a few days a year at mid to high tide with very little swell. Proceed with caution.

07-20-2010, 12:08 PM	#4
rogersmith Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 465	it gets more absurd by the day

07-20-2010, 01:40 PM	#5
tony Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: La Jolla Posts: 130	That's a typo on that map. They meant to say Kayak Lunched.....Looks like a good way to eat it. Oh wait .....here's how you do it..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKmAvRYDHW8

07-25-2010, 11:06 AM	#6
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	I think the important part of those alledged launch sights is that they are at Sunset CLIFFS. Emphasis on the word cliffs. I guess any thing is possible but you better have your skills together and a strong back. I've launched all over So Cal, from south IB to the trails in Laguna Beach, and I wouldn't recomend that area. Mike

07-26-2010, 06:12 PM	#7
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	Pretty funny stuff here. I can shed some light on these. They are launch sites for some people. I've used two of them - Helo drive, where were you? But there's definitely context missing in the MLPA map these came from, which makes it look like all of these are equally good. When we were gearing up for our attempt to survive the MLPA, we started with with a mapping project called the KFACA Launch Sites List. If you go back two or three years, you'll find the invite posts. We asked everyone from pros to kayak fishing newbies to tell us where they fished. This was way before Ecotrust, for kayak anglers by kayak anglers only. We wanted to document everything, so that we could demonstrate ANY impact. Even if it hit one guy's secret spot, I wanted to know. We also distinguished between Primary sites such as La Jolla, Dana Pt, etc that we'd go to the wall to keep open, and secondary, little-used 'pirate' launches like these. There's was another strategic side to this. Every user group was expected to sacrifice - to get hurt by losing access. We prefered to give up places like these, not La Jolla or Dana Pt. If I'd have gotten out of the RSG with only secondary sites on the chopping block, it would have been a huge victory. Of course, that's not what happened. The Malibu guys are set to lose their La Jolla equivalent. At PV, the local kayak guys sacrificed a brand new access point at Terranea in order to keep peace with other fishing allies. Otherwise we it could have been much worse. I hope that makes sense.