Running 2 lines

[JohnMckroidJr]

Interesting to read the different perspectives. Normally, I would never throw out a drift chute while fighting a fish. Instead, chase the fish down. The less line out, the less chance for something to go wrong. In my area, a lot of line out might mean a boater cuts your line, or your fish finds a wreck or sharp bottom to cut your line on. By chasing the fish down, you keep the fish in more of a straight up and down position which means less chance of the fish breaking your line with a tail lash. Normally one equates a tail lash break with a shark, but it can happen with other fork-tailed pelagics as well. Focus on the fish, if the other line gets tangled, cut it if you have to.
Peddling can keep the other line clear of the way as you bring in the fish. Usually, I will take winds intermittently on the other line in the rod holder until it is clear before the hooked fish starts circling the kayak. In my area, if plenty of bait is available, 1 line is trolled on the surface while the other is run deep. I use a downrigger for my deep bait, but most will put a 6-8oz sinker on the deep line by rubber band about 60ft up from the live bait.

[FullFlavorPike]

Originally Posted by JohnMckroidJr

Interesting to read the different perspectives. Normally, I would never throw out a drift chute while fighting a fish. Instead, chase the fish down. The less line out, the less chance for something to go wrong. In my area, a lot of line out might mean a boater cuts your line, or your fish finds a wreck or sharp bottom to cut your line on. By chasing the fish down, you keep the fish in more of a straight up and down position which means less chance of the fish breaking your line with a tail lash. Normally one equates a tail lash break with a shark, but it can happen with other fork-tailed pelagics as well. Focus on the fish, if the other line gets tangled, cut it if you have to.
Peddling can keep the other line clear of the way as you bring in the fish. Usually, I will take winds intermittently on the other line in the rod holder until it is clear before the hooked fish starts circling the kayak. In my area, if plenty of bait is available, 1 line is trolled on the surface while the other is run deep. I use a downrigger for my deep bait, but most will put a 6-8oz sinker on the deep line by rubber band about 60ft up from the live bait.

For sure getting over the fish is step one in any fair fight. The circling thing happens after you get over them. If, say, a healthy la jolla YT is running in big circles, it can have your boat doing pirouettes. Hobie guys don't have the problem because they can twist the rudder and give the drive a kick and that's that. I have no rudder on my boat, and I'm not even sure the currently available OK rudder kits can even attach to it. Might be obsolete.

[igotpron]

Originally Posted by FullFlavorPike

For sure getting over the fish is step one in any fair fight. The circling thing happens after you get over them. If, say, a healthy la jolla YT is running in big circles, it can have your boat doing pirouettes. Hobie guys don't have the problem because they can twist the rudder and give the drive a kick and that's that. I have no rudder on my boat, and I'm not even sure the currently available OK rudder kits can even attach to it. Might be obsolete.

I believe the stupid ones just spin in a circle. While the “home guards” bolt for any structure they can find.


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[jorluivil]

I ALWAYS run two lines, sometimes I will run three but when running three you have constantly be paying attention to your lines.

If I'm running two and I hook a fish here is what I do:

1. Adjust my seat because chances are I was sleeping
8. Call Tony and Greg on the radio and ask them what we're having for lunch
3. Take a selfie and do a TikTok
9. Listen to Tony complain and say that I hooked nothing more than a batray
2. Check text messages and missed calls
4. Set hook
6. Wonder why I'm out fishing and not at home sleeping
5. Set hook, again.
3. Wind up other line(s)
2. Get back on the radio and tell Tony and Greg that it feels like my PB
8. Adjust my seat, again
7. Take another selfie because I wasn't happy with the first one
1. Release batray

Hope that helps

[TJones]

Originally Posted by jorluivil

I ALWAYS run two lines, sometimes I will run three but when running three you have constantly be paying attention to your lines.

If I'm running two and I hook a fish here is what I do:

1. Adjust my seat because chances are I was sleeping
8. Call Tony and Greg on the radio and ask them what we're having for lunch
3. Take a selfie and do a TikTok
9. Listen to Tony complain and say that I hooked nothing more than a batray
2. Check text messages and missed calls
4. Set hook
6. Wonder why I'm out fishing and not at home sleeping
5. Set hook, again.
3. Wind up other line(s)
2. Get back on the radio and tell Tony and Greg that it feels like my PB
8. Adjust my seat, again
7. Take another selfie because I wasn't happy with the first one
1. Release batray

Hope that helps

Hope you are well and safe.

[chris138]

Originally Posted by jorluivil

I ALWAYS run two lines, sometimes I will run three but when running three you have constantly be paying attention to your lines.

If I'm running two and I hook a fish here is what I do:

1. Adjust my seat because chances are I was sleeping
8. Call Tony and Greg on the radio and ask them what we're having for lunch
3. Take a selfie and do a TikTok
9. Listen to Tony complain and say that I hooked nothing more than a batray
2. Check text messages and missed calls
4. Set hook
6. Wonder why I'm out fishing and not at home sleeping
5. Set hook, again.
3. Wind up other line(s)
2. Get back on the radio and tell Tony and Greg that it feels like my PB
8. Adjust my seat, again
7. Take another selfie because I wasn't happy with the first one
1. Release batray

Hope that helps

LMFAO I'm dying

[FullFlavorPike]

"1. adjust my seat ... 1. release batray"

It's funny cuz it's true.

[FISH11]

Originally Posted by chris138

LMFAO I'm dying

Likewise when I first saw it. it's great to have Jorge back in a kayak and participating in the posts on BWE. He always has a funny way of telling stories and the real funny part is that he's telling the truth.

[JohnMckroidJr]

Originally Posted by igotpron

I believe the stupid ones just spin in a circle. While the “home guards” bolt for any structure they can find.


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If one survives the first couple of runs of the fish looking for structure, they all eventually wear out and go into the death circles before making it up to the kayak.

[TJones]

Originally Posted by JohnMckroidJr

If one survives the first couple of runs of the fish looking for structure, they all eventually wear out and go into the death circles before making it up to the kayak.

Do you try to get the deep drop rig up completely or just under the surface if I was hooked up on the fly line? Or, is this not gonna be a real issue of him wrapping in the other line?

[JohnMckroidJr]

Originally Posted by TJones

Do you try to get the deep drop rig up completely or just under the surface if I was hooked up on the fly line? Or, is this not gonna be a real issue of him wrapping in the other line?

It depends on what type of fish I am fighting. If I am fighting an Amberjack, Grouper, or fish that is going to dive into the structure, I totally ignore all other rigs and focus on getting the fish clear of structure. Once clear of the structure, intermittently reel in other rigs until clear. It's a must to crank up my downrigger before it gets wrapped, or it will get cut off or cut off my fish. Peddling the kayak to keep the other lines behind the kayak helps keep them clear of the fish I am fighting.