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Old 04-30-2013, 08:05 PM   #1
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You're late this year.
I'm waiting for the 2014 trip
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:13 PM   #2
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I'm waiting for the 2014 trip

LOL!!! Sorry I can't make this trip bro. I hate for you to have to baby sit the whole team by your self. I'll help out next year. Hope you guys have a great trip.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:48 PM   #3
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They lost a customer when I can not take my PA 14, I tipped the crew good last year because I saw them work hard But someone must have complained.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:30 AM   #4
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They lost a customer when I can not take my PA 14, I tipped the crew good last year because I saw them work hard But someone must have complained.

A lot of the issue is that PA's take of a ton of space and dont fit in the racks. When you put those kayaks on the deck it makes it that much harder to walk around the boat and creates unsafe conditions for passengers and crew. Especially if there are a whole bunch of PA's. Even on trips where there are just 1 or 2 it really crowds up the deck which is already a problem on these trips due to the amount of gear that folks bring.

The weight of the PA is only a small part of the reasoning, there are plenty of guys that load up their Malibus and make them just as heavy as a PA.

All 5 trips we are running in 2013 filled up no problem without people being allowed to bring PA's. Obviously this change didnt hurt peoples decision to go and most everybody has been very understanding and have made other arrangements so that they could still attend.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:32 AM   #5
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A lot of the issue is that PA's take of a ton of space and dont fit in the racks. When you put those kayaks on the deck it makes it that much harder to walk around the boat and creates unsafe conditions for passengers and crew. Especially if there are a whole bunch of PA's. Even on trips where there are just 1 or 2 it really crowds up the deck which is already a problem on these trips due to the amount of gear that folks bring.

The weight of the PA is only a small part of the reasoning, there are plenty of guys that load up their Malibus and make them just as heavy as a PA.
Thanks for the clarification. I'm signed up for the June trip. We cleared this awhile ago, but just double-checking. A Hobie tandem Oasis is ok still?
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:35 AM   #6
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Your Oasis is still good. Although heavy and a big kayak it is still reasonable enough to put it into the racks. Same goes for any of the other larger kayaks (Ride 135, Xfactor, S-14, FnD). While large they are still a reasonable kayak size. The Oasis does push this envelope but there are very few of these that want to go on the trips and they do still fit in the racks. IF we allowed PA's there would easily be 6-10 of them per trip now days and lets be honest, a PA is not a kayak it is a boat.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:39 AM   #7
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on a related side note...

I know the June trip is full, but since I am bringing a tandem, if I wanted to bring my 9-yr old son, would I have to pay full price? I doubt he's up for it right now, but just curious and thinking about future trips.

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Old 06-09-2013, 09:21 PM   #8
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A lot of the issue is that PA's take of a ton of space and dont fit in the racks. When you put those kayaks on the deck it makes it that much harder to walk around the boat and creates unsafe conditions for passengers and crew. Especially if there are a whole bunch of PA's. Even on trips where there are just 1 or 2 it really crowds up the deck which is already a problem on these trips due to the amount of gear that folks bring.

The weight of the PA is only a small part of the reasoning, there are plenty of guys that load up their Malibus and make them just as heavy as a PA.

All 5 trips we are running in 2013 filled up no problem without people being allowed to bring PA's. Obviously this change didnt hurt peoples decision to go and most everybody has been very understanding and have made other arrangements so that they could still attend.
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