This is a warning to all diver who steal for my hoopnet - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Aaron&Julie · 10-01-2012, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveooo

All this internet tough-guy talk about hurting guys over a few silly lobster? Id say that 2 things pretty high on my priority list when I go fishing are:

1) Don't get hurt- Make sure I come home safely to my family.
2) Don't hurt anybody else- Make sure they come home safely to their family.

Maybe the 2nd one isn't something that I actually think about when fishing, but its got to rank pretty high in the realm of just being a decent human being, right?

Do you remember this post, where I actually had a little faith restored in humanity, and the BWE kayak community?

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?t=14807

Now you guys are all ready to grab torches and pitchforks and start lobbing bricks and jigs at people underwater? I certainly hope you guys don't need lobster that bad.

Plus, I'm allergic to lobster, so I think its gross

Steve, I tend to agree with you on just about every topic, I even do here. But, one point should be added, let's call it #3

3) Don't steal ANYTHING from any of the other sporting people anywhere, or just don't steal at all.

Divers who check nets, are not only disrupting a crawl that may reward a kayak hoopster for all of his/her hard work, but how about the divers being decent human beings too, and stay at least 10 feet away from our nets? They certainly can cover much more bottom than we can.

No, I don't need lobster so bad that I have to injure somebody. But, do they need lobster so bad that they have to poach?

I've not seen kayak hoopsters hurt anyone, but I've definitely seen divers go directly to nets (mine and others), and who knows what they are really doing there? Definitely spooking lobsters close by my net. Poaching, aye, maybe that too.

Respect for each other is the way to go, but not all divers get that message. Some kayakers don't either, but that is usually in regards to areas other than poaching one's bugs.

wiredantz · 10-01-2012, 07:24 PM

yeah, i can imagine 10million things.

but it comes down to...

its just plain wrong to steal...
ive seen diver do it... i heard divers say they have done it....

and its just not right... to steal.... but they do it?

yes i have friends who dive who are honest, but i know divers who are wrong and dirty....

THIS IS ONGOING WAR: Even across the world!!!

the biggest problem, Parisi said, has been divers stealing lobsters right out of his traps.
Parisi said he once put out 100 traps, and when he pulled them up a few days later, 67 of the traps had open doors. This is something a fish could never do considering the doors on the top of the wired, metal traps are bound by tightly-strapped bungee cords.
Besides catching lobsters, crabs, sea stars and the occasional fish in his traps, Parisi said he has pulled up diving gloves and a flashlight. He knows another lobsterman whose catch once yielded an expensive watch and dive knife.
He said every summer he sees a few divers walking up on shore or climbing back into their boats with a bag stuffed full of lobsters.
"You can pretty much tell when a diver gets out of the water with a bag with 25 lobsters, you can tell they aren't getting them legally," he said. "We're pulling 100 traps and getting maybe 10 lobsters. They're coming up with 30. They ruin it for everybody."
Parisi said he has called the game wardens on more than one occasion to report suspicious behavior from divers, like when he sees bag after bag of lobsters being loaded into divers' boats, or when he is pulling traps and bubbles from the divers are directly below and preceding him along his string of traps. Sometimes the divers are arrested for harvesting undersized and pregnant lobsters, Parisi said. More often than not, though, the divers are out of the water and driving away by the time law enforcement officials have arrived.
But Parisi insists it is only a few bad apples who spoil diving for everyone else.

http://www.scuba-newengland.com/News....asp?NewsID=41

jorluivil · 10-01-2012, 07:32 PM

Why are you guys arguing with Frank? He wouldn't hurt a fly.

Old Man in the Sea · 10-02-2012, 03:41 PM

This is a perfect example of a thread that should be deleted .....Otherwise.....maybe you should attend the funeral of the lobster diver and console his wife and kids...and be grateful you didn't follow through some dumb idea...

wiredantz · 10-02-2012, 07:08 PM

Brilliant ideas come from trail and error.

Soon to be invented,

Dummies guide

On teaching
Lobster Trap Etiquette

My next invention, Kayak Canons!

But i will do what Jim day says, take note of the CF number and report them and confront them that its not cool to steal from the nacho man.

its a dirty world we live in

bus kid · 10-02-2012, 07:39 PM

paintball marker!!!
even in a wetsuit it still hurts.

jorluivil · 10-02-2012, 08:32 PM

Why is this thread still open?

10-01-2012, 07:24 PM	#2
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	yeah, i can imagine 10million things. but it comes down to... its just plain wrong to steal... ive seen diver do it... i heard divers say they have done it.... and its just not right... to steal.... but they do it? yes i have friends who dive who are honest, but i know divers who are wrong and dirty.... THIS IS ONGOING WAR: Even across the world!!! the biggest problem, Parisi said, has been divers stealing lobsters right out of his traps. Parisi said he once put out 100 traps, and when he pulled them up a few days later, 67 of the traps had open doors. This is something a fish could never do considering the doors on the top of the wired, metal traps are bound by tightly-strapped bungee cords. Besides catching lobsters, crabs, sea stars and the occasional fish in his traps, Parisi said he has pulled up diving gloves and a flashlight. He knows another lobsterman whose catch once yielded an expensive watch and dive knife. He said every summer he sees a few divers walking up on shore or climbing back into their boats with a bag stuffed full of lobsters. "You can pretty much tell when a diver gets out of the water with a bag with 25 lobsters, you can tell they aren't getting them legally," he said. "We're pulling 100 traps and getting maybe 10 lobsters. They're coming up with 30. They ruin it for everybody." Parisi said he has called the game wardens on more than one occasion to report suspicious behavior from divers, like when he sees bag after bag of lobsters being loaded into divers' boats, or when he is pulling traps and bubbles from the divers are directly below and preceding him along his string of traps. Sometimes the divers are arrested for harvesting undersized and pregnant lobsters, Parisi said. More often than not, though, the divers are out of the water and driving away by the time law enforcement officials have arrived. But Parisi insists it is only a few bad apples who spoil diving for everyone else. http://www.scuba-newengland.com/News....asp?NewsID=41 __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it

10-02-2012, 03:41 PM	#4
Old Man in the Sea Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Bay Park Posts: 569	lobsters , only lobsters.... This is a perfect example of a thread that should be deleted .....Otherwise.....maybe you should attend the funeral of the lobster diver and console his wife and kids...and be grateful you didn't follow through some dumb idea...

10-02-2012, 07:08 PM	#5
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	Brilliant ideas come from trail and error. Soon to be invented, Dummies guide On teaching Lobster Trap Etiquette My next invention, Kayak Canons! But i will do what Jim day says, take note of the CF number and report them and confront them that its not cool to steal from the nacho man. its a dirty world we live in __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it Last edited by wiredantz; 10-02-2012 at 07:52 PM.

10-02-2012, 07:39 PM	#6
bus kid Team Keine Zugehörigkeit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Way out there Posts: 2,854	paintball marker!!! even in a wetsuit it still hurts. __________________ Não alimente os trolls------------Don't feed the trolls---------------インタネット荒らしを無視しろ

10-02-2012, 08:32 PM	#7
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Why is this thread still open? __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

10-01-2012, 07:32 PM	#3
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Why are you guys arguing with Frank? He wouldn't hurt a fly. __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

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