Watch out for the DFG guy. - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

driftwood · 06-03-2010, 07:28 PM

Yani and I were checked out by the a DFG official last night as we landed around 9pm. We went thru the usual drill, Yani went first. DFG wanted to see my license, my front and back hatch of my kayak. thank god he skipped the cavity check

The only thing i had left over was some bait which i threw on the sand to feed the birds. The DFG guy reprimanded me and said I shouldn't waste bait, since Yani confessed he likes to eat it and I should have given it to him. I have had yani's cooked bait- its good!!!

Nic D · 06-03-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by driftwood

Yani and I were checked out by the a DFG official last night as we landed around 9pm. We went thru the usual drill, Yani went first. DFG wanted to see my license, my front and back hatch of my kayak. thank god he skipped the cavity check

so just to make sure I don't get nailed for anything lame, cause thats my luck

we have to have:
1) our license
2) a pfd on board
3) nothing illegal

am I missing anything?

wade · 06-03-2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamarack Studios

am I missing anything?

Oh you sure will be Nick...
It's called your United States Constitutional Fourth Amendment rights..
Somehow they go down the toilet once these F&G clowns get their woop-de-do badge..Be ready for the Fourth Reich..

Hunters Pa · 06-03-2010, 08:40 PM

Should have a net, even if stowed, in case they really want to be a pain

MrPatrick · 06-03-2010, 08:59 PM

and a whistle

Billy V · 06-03-2010, 09:14 PM

If you're out at night on the kayak you need some type of light.

Good to carry one because sometimes its dark when you land.

dsafety · 06-03-2010, 09:17 PM

Maybe some of you were just having a little fun but I doubt the DFG cares about whistles or even PFDs. I am not sure about the net however. I know that is a requirement on some inland waters. Anyone know for sure about the ocean?

Since this is not Arizona, I guess we will not have to be able to prove that we are legal residents. Sometimes I wonder exactly how I would prove that I am legal. A drivers license and credit cards would not do it because anyone can get those. The only thing I can think of that would work for sure is a passport.

Note to self... next time I go to visit my son in Arizona, be sure to pack the passport.

Bob

Aaron · 06-03-2010, 09:37 PM

I'm happy to get checked by the DFG. Makes me feel like I got my money's worth out of my license. lol.

If you ever have the time, schedule a ride-along with a DFG warden. You'll quickly see why they may be a bit "pessimistic" when they approach you. I got a ticket once for shooting ducks in a poorly marked restricted area on Baldwin Lake in Big Bear and decided I should go on a ride along with the very cop that wrote me the ticket. I quickly realized the BS that they put up with. 90% of the boaters we stopped at random on Big Bear Lake did not have a fishing license. We were lucky if they weren't drunk as well. Then came the excuses...blah blah blah, standard stuff.

If a Warden asks you to open up your hatch, you don't have to. You can ask them to get a warrant. If its not in plain view, you're covered under search and seizure constitutional rights. But why bother? I'll gladly open up my hatch for the guys that are keeping the idiots out of the water that are scooping up 18" WSB and kill everything else in site. I'll gladly take out my fishing license to show that I paid into our fisheries so that Game Wardens can crack down on those that don't. I've been good to those guys and have received some great info that resulted in me shooting more birds and catching more fish. I dunno, maybe I'm weird, but since getting a ticket and going on a ride along I have a bunch more respect for those guys. But I get it that they can sometimes come off a bit harsh.

Gino · 06-04-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dsafety

Maybe some of you were just having a little fun but I doubt the DFG cares about whistles or even PFDs. I am not sure about the net however. I know that is a requirement on some inland waters. Anyone know for sure about the ocean?

Since this is not Arizona, I guess we will not have to be able to prove that we are legal residents. Sometimes I wonder exactly how I would prove that I am legal. A drivers license and credit cards would not do it because anyone can get those. The only thing I can think of that would work for sure is a passport.

Note to self... next time I go to visit my son in Arizona, be sure to pack the passport.

Bob

When you buy a fishing liscense, the vendor is supposed to check your drivers liscense and compare it with what you have written on the fishing lisecense. A fishing liscense can be a form of pseudo Identification.
Not sure how Arizona has anythign to do with DFG asking for your liscense.

dick fabulous · 06-05-2010, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tamarack Studios

so just to make sure I don't get nailed for anything lame, cause thats my luck

we have to have:
1) our license
2) a pfd on board
3) nothing illegal

am I missing anything?

I'm just saying

Hunters Pa · 06-05-2010, 06:54 AM

Pretty sure the net is a requirement, which is why I bought the folding Promar. Makes you compliant. I'll look for the reg later today if the kids let me

bubblehide · 06-05-2010, 06:14 PM

I also like to see the DFG out there and feel like my license money is being utilized appropriately when there out there; only problem is that I hardly ever bump into them. But considering their proportion to the population hardly seeing them is understandable, there low numbers are not.

Years ago I had a few bad run-ins with a particular DFG officer; I was never in violation, so I was assertive but cooperative with him and everything always ended fine. But I would rather have them treat me (as they usually do) and anyone with dignity and respect until the situation calls for something different.

driftwood · 06-05-2010, 07:10 PM

I did have the privilege to speak with some of the the DFG guy's at a couple of the MLPA meetings and they told me they were on our side 100%.

But, does anyone know if the DFG officers have to meet a daily quota like the CHP officers?

The last two times i got checked out by the DFG, they seemed to be very disappointed that they had nothing on me. Why is that?

Has anyone else experienced this too? Or is it just me?

06-03-2010, 07:28 PM	#1
driftwood Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 1,086	Watch out for the DFG guy. Yani and I were checked out by the a DFG official last night as we landed around 9pm. We went thru the usual drill, Yani went first. DFG wanted to see my license, my front and back hatch of my kayak. thank god he skipped the cavity check The only thing i had left over was some bait which i threw on the sand to feed the birds. The DFG guy reprimanded me and said I shouldn't waste bait, since Yani confessed he likes to eat it and I should have given it to him. I have had yani's cooked bait- its good!!! Last edited by driftwood; 06-03-2010 at 07:43 PM.

06-03-2010, 08:59 PM	#5
MrPatrick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Waiting to launch Posts: 1,381	and and a whistle

06-05-2010, 07:10 PM	#13
driftwood Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 1,086	I did have the privilege to speak with some of the the DFG guy's at a couple of the MLPA meetings and they told me they were on our side 100%. But, does anyone know if the DFG officers have to meet a daily quota like the CHP officers? The last two times i got checked out by the DFG, they seemed to be very disappointed that they had nothing on me. Why is that? Has anyone else experienced this too? Or is it just me? Last edited by driftwood; 06-05-2010 at 07:22 PM.

06-03-2010, 08:40 PM	#4
Hunters Pa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fullerton Posts: 1,359	Should have a net, even if stowed, in case they really want to be a pain

06-03-2010, 09:14 PM	#6
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	If you're out at night on the kayak you need some type of light. Good to carry one because sometimes its dark when you land.

06-03-2010, 09:17 PM	#7
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,121	Maybe some of you were just having a little fun but I doubt the DFG cares about whistles or even PFDs. I am not sure about the net however. I know that is a requirement on some inland waters. Anyone know for sure about the ocean? Since this is not Arizona, I guess we will not have to be able to prove that we are legal residents. Sometimes I wonder exactly how I would prove that I am legal. A drivers license and credit cards would not do it because anyone can get those. The only thing I can think of that would work for sure is a passport. Note to self... next time I go to visit my son in Arizona, be sure to pack the passport. Bob

06-03-2010, 09:37 PM	#8
Aaron Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 175	I'm happy to get checked by the DFG. Makes me feel like I got my money's worth out of my license. lol. If you ever have the time, schedule a ride-along with a DFG warden. You'll quickly see why they may be a bit "pessimistic" when they approach you. I got a ticket once for shooting ducks in a poorly marked restricted area on Baldwin Lake in Big Bear and decided I should go on a ride along with the very cop that wrote me the ticket. I quickly realized the BS that they put up with. 90% of the boaters we stopped at random on Big Bear Lake did not have a fishing license. We were lucky if they weren't drunk as well. Then came the excuses...blah blah blah, standard stuff. If a Warden asks you to open up your hatch, you don't have to. You can ask them to get a warrant. If its not in plain view, you're covered under search and seizure constitutional rights. But why bother? I'll gladly open up my hatch for the guys that are keeping the idiots out of the water that are scooping up 18" WSB and kill everything else in site. I'll gladly take out my fishing license to show that I paid into our fisheries so that Game Wardens can crack down on those that don't. I've been good to those guys and have received some great info that resulted in me shooting more birds and catching more fish. I dunno, maybe I'm weird, but since getting a ticket and going on a ride along I have a bunch more respect for those guys. But I get it that they can sometimes come off a bit harsh.

06-05-2010, 06:54 AM	#11
Hunters Pa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fullerton Posts: 1,359	Pretty sure the net is a requirement, which is why I bought the folding Promar. Makes you compliant. I'll look for the reg later today if the kids let me

06-05-2010, 06:14 PM	#12
bubblehide Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 552	I also like to see the DFG out there and feel like my license money is being utilized appropriately when there out there; only problem is that I hardly ever bump into them. But considering their proportion to the population hardly seeing them is understandable, there low numbers are not. Years ago I had a few bad run-ins with a particular DFG officer; I was never in violation, so I was assertive but cooperative with him and everything always ended fine. But I would rather have them treat me (as they usually do) and anyone with dignity and respect until the situation calls for something different.