Line Visibility

[FISHIONADO]

I've always used flouro leaders because I thought it was less visible and attracted more strikes. Maybe that is true with a slow moving live bait. The link below (more marketing than article) shows that line visibility isn't an issue for jointed rebels. Are fish really smart enough to know that a line in front of a bait is bad news? Maybe some species like halibut have better eyesight and it matters more for them?

http://www.mexfish.com/apgs/rebels/rebels.htm

LEADERS AND LINE: Supposedly, the lighter the line you use, the more strikes you will get, right? In practice, we found that using line up to about 25 pound test with Jointed Rebels worked just fine. More than that causes problems with lure action and will cost you hits. However, I am 100 percent convinced that the problem with heavy line is not line visiblity. This is because Neil Kelly, who absolutely hated to waste time tying on new lures, always fished with an ugly, six-inch black plastic coated wire leader with a big, ugly snap at the lure end. This way, Neil could snap on new lures in seconds. In an effort to beat Neil's incredible fish counts, I usually tied on direct, and sometimes I would go down as low as 6-pound line to beat Neil's 25-pound. In all the years we fished togther I NEVER ONCE beat Neil. So much for line visibility.

[THE DARKHORSE]

Wow, sounds like Neil can fish. What are these guys fishing for, gator Gar?

[Siebler]

There is no doubt that some lures swim better on heavier, stiffer line. Just ask any of the old sportboat guys about Twisting Wire for fishing the Iron.

Remember that a live bait is very often a more thought out bite by a fish than a Reaction bite like you get with most lures (with the exception of soft plastics).

[FISHIONADO]

Originally Posted by Siebler

Remember that a live bait is very often a more thought out bite by a fish than a Reaction bite like you get with most lures (with the exception of soft plastics).

That makes sense.

BTW, I've got a silver rebel jointed fast trac lure, all I've caught with it are bonita. Those are just nuisance fish to me, like sand bass.

[steamroll]

Dave,

That monster in your avatar was caught without a leader, right? Straight spectra?

[forefrazier]

"Maybe some species like halibut have better eyesight and it matters more for them?"

This one was caught on straight 65lb spectra dropper loop....Go figure.

[FISHIONADO]

Originally Posted by steamroll

Dave,

That monster in your avatar was caught without a leader, right? Straight spectra?

True, 65# green spectra on a fast trolled rapala cd-14. I'm thinking like C.J., there are reactionary bites on something like a pulsing rapala or fast iron, and then there are the slower bites like halibut and WSB where it might matter more. Otherwise why wouldn't we use wire leaders for all applications? The bass fisherman sure believe in lighter line, and most halibut fisherman. I'm only asking because I haven't caught a decent fish in a long time. I want to exploit every technique.

I really like trolling my rapalas with spectra, usually with a short flouro leader, because you can see so much action in the rod tip from the swimming lure. I can tell the moment a single piece of grass or kelp gets hooked.