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wiredantz · 06-24-2013, 04:09 PM

yakattack, what is your weight if you don't mind me asking, and what type of kayak did you buy?

It sounds like

A) you might be too heavy withall your gear for your kayak.
The Ocean Scrambler 11 only holds about 300 to 350lbs so this plus a bucket full of water can make you top heavy, if your a heavyset person.

b) you might of just lost your balance because you were not paying attention to the swells and water, also make sure you don't have a leak.

Everyone on this website has lost alot of items during their first few months, but some of us have to learn the hard way.Some people don't learn their lesson and still lose things.

Yes, it terrible that you made such a mistake, but its good to look back and get up and not give up because that is the only true failure in life.

I learned this the hard way:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...4215850AAAUT8W
Who should sit at the front of the Kayak?
I own a tandem cobra kayak, holds 600lbs. I am a 260lbs 6ft tall male. My friend is 6.9ft and 220 lbs. I read that the heavier person should sit in the stern section of the kayak, but we found it easier for the taller person to sit it the back. Whenever my 6.9 ft friend sat on the bow we would capsize, i assume because he couldn't keep his balance.

We also had trouble keeping out balance when a huge wake of a boat hit us.

3 years ago

Additional Details
Now please keep in mind, that the only equipment we carry is the paddles and life vest. This is a sit on top kayak and we did not capsize once when the male 6ft tall 260lbs person sat in the front.

3 years ago
Now usually when i go out, i put my seat in the middle of the kayak and take my 30lb daughter with me. I have never capsized this way and we always stay inside of the marinas.

3 years ago
Would it be easier to just make the cobra tandem a one seater by adjusting the seat near the middle and renting a second kayak like a cobra fish and dive for the other person?

3 years ago
Capt. John Capt. John
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There are Kayaks for "Tall & Large" just as there are speciality men's shops.

I agree, the tallest should sit in the rear... but that is not the problem here.

Your problem is not who is sitting in the front... it is simply that your kayak is too small. Legally, Kayak manufacturers do not have to rate their vessels on any type of "stability" factors - only capacity weight. So "technically" you could fill the inside of your kayak with 600lbs of lead (all down in the hull) and all would be fine. But add half that weight to the top of the kayak (rather then the inside) and it will capsize every time.

Your problem is you guys are both too tall & too large for that kayak. I realize the boat manuel or capacity plate may say it will hold 600lbs but that (alone) is not a good representation of the vessel's stability. At almost 500 lbs the two of you plus equipment & gear, etc. are pushing the very limit.

If you weigh all your gear, equipment, beverage & beverage cooler, etc. you will probably find you are within 10% of the maximum load limit. If you are both broad in the shoulders, your weight is high, and the boat is low in the water. This of course makes it extremely unstable.

Loaded to within 10% of capacity, a lot of vessels (not just kayaks) would capsize if a few people more then half walked over to starboard. In fact, a houseboat with the exact number of people stated on it's mfg's capacity plate recently capsized because too many of them were on the upper deck.

I suggest you get a kayak made for "Tall & Large" kayakers...

06-24-2013, 04:09 PM	#16
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	yakattack, what is your weight if you don't mind me asking, and what type of kayak did you buy? It sounds like A) you might be too heavy withall your gear for your kayak. The Ocean Scrambler 11 only holds about 300 to 350lbs so this plus a bucket full of water can make you top heavy, if your a heavyset person. b) you might of just lost your balance because you were not paying attention to the swells and water, also make sure you don't have a leak. Everyone on this website has lost alot of items during their first few months, but some of us have to learn the hard way.Some people don't learn their lesson and still lose things. Yes, it terrible that you made such a mistake, but its good to look back and get up and not give up because that is the only true failure in life. I learned this the hard way: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...4215850AAAUT8W Who should sit at the front of the Kayak? I own a tandem cobra kayak, holds 600lbs. I am a 260lbs 6ft tall male. My friend is 6.9ft and 220 lbs. I read that the heavier person should sit in the stern section of the kayak, but we found it easier for the taller person to sit it the back. Whenever my 6.9 ft friend sat on the bow we would capsize, i assume because he couldn't keep his balance. We also had trouble keeping out balance when a huge wake of a boat hit us. 3 years ago Additional Details Now please keep in mind, that the only equipment we carry is the paddles and life vest. This is a sit on top kayak and we did not capsize once when the male 6ft tall 260lbs person sat in the front. 3 years ago Now usually when i go out, i put my seat in the middle of the kayak and take my 30lb daughter with me. I have never capsized this way and we always stay inside of the marinas. 3 years ago Would it be easier to just make the cobra tandem a one seater by adjusting the seat near the middle and renting a second kayak like a cobra fish and dive for the other person? 3 years ago Capt. John Capt. John A Top Contributor is someone who is knowledgeable in a particular category. Best Answer - Chosen by Voters There are Kayaks for "Tall & Large" just as there are speciality men's shops. I agree, the tallest should sit in the rear... but that is not the problem here. Your problem is not who is sitting in the front... it is simply that your kayak is too small. Legally, Kayak manufacturers do not have to rate their vessels on any type of "stability" factors - only capacity weight. So "technically" you could fill the inside of your kayak with 600lbs of lead (all down in the hull) and all would be fine. But add half that weight to the top of the kayak (rather then the inside) and it will capsize every time. Your problem is you guys are both too tall & too large for that kayak. I realize the boat manuel or capacity plate may say it will hold 600lbs but that (alone) is not a good representation of the vessel's stability. At almost 500 lbs the two of you plus equipment & gear, etc. are pushing the very limit. If you weigh all your gear, equipment, beverage & beverage cooler, etc. you will probably find you are within 10% of the maximum load limit. If you are both broad in the shoulders, your weight is high, and the boat is low in the water. This of course makes it extremely unstable. Loaded to within 10% of capacity, a lot of vessels (not just kayaks) would capsize if a few people more then half walked over to starboard. In fact, a houseboat with the exact number of people stated on it's mfg's capacity plate recently capsized because too many of them were on the upper deck. I suggest you get a kayak made for "Tall & Large" kayakers... __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it Last edited by wiredantz; 06-24-2013 at 04:18 PM.