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dos ballenas · 05-09-2011, 12:31 PM

Very very very good points Kurt. Thank you.

NOT talking to the survey people only HURTS fishermen.

It's important to realize that "science" is going to go on, regardless of whether or not you talk to them.

With or without you, fish populations ARE being scrutinized, studied, researched, counted, analysed, etc...

You can choose to keep your mouth shut and let the science happen without your input, or you can choose to contribute and help shape the face of fisheries research.

Either way, the science will go on.

Do you want the guys doing the science to have bad data, or good data?

The data they are compiling is used to determine the stock status of given species.

Without your help all they have is bad data.

Its easy to assume that there are NO fish in the sea when all the fishermen are reporting NO fish.

When you DON'T talk to the survey people it's pretty easy for them to assume that you didn't catch anything.

This can be easily interpreted that there are NO fish in the sea to catch.

YES, it's easy for data to be used against fishermen. Especially when all the data says that there are NO fish in the sea.

That is why it is important to have GOOD data. If we had data that could have shown how healthy our fishery actually is, things may have have been different during the MLPA process. Fishermen would have been able to back themselves up better.

Unfortunately, the lack of data told a different story.

The point is, you are only hurting yourself by keeping your mouth shut.

There is an old saying that 10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish. Unfortunately that saying is more or less true. And if the environmentalists base their "opinions" on the reports they get from the 90% of fishermen that never catch any fish, then its easy to see how people tend to think that the oceans are over fished and we need to close areas and make reserve...

Most of you should be able see how this is NOT helpful to fishermen.

Environmental extremists DON'T have a clue as to whats really going on with our fisheries. Which is mainly our fault.

05-09-2011, 12:31 PM	#2
dos ballenas Vampyroteuthis infernalis Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 585	Very very very good points Kurt. Thank you. NOT talking to the survey people only HURTS fishermen. It's important to realize that "science" is going to go on, regardless of whether or not you talk to them. With or without you, fish populations ARE being scrutinized, studied, researched, counted, analysed, etc... You can choose to keep your mouth shut and let the science happen without your input, or you can choose to contribute and help shape the face of fisheries research. Either way, the science will go on. Do you want the guys doing the science to have bad data, or good data? The data they are compiling is used to determine the stock status of given species. Without your help all they have is bad data. Its easy to assume that there are NO fish in the sea when all the fishermen are reporting NO fish. When you DON'T talk to the survey people it's pretty easy for them to assume that you didn't catch anything. This can be easily interpreted that there are NO fish in the sea to catch. YES, it's easy for data to be used against fishermen. Especially when all the data says that there are NO fish in the sea. That is why it is important to have GOOD data. If we had data that could have shown how healthy our fishery actually is, things may have have been different during the MLPA process. Fishermen would have been able to back themselves up better. Unfortunately, the lack of data told a different story. The point is, you are only hurting yourself by keeping your mouth shut. There is an old saying that 10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish. Unfortunately that saying is more or less true. And if the environmentalists base their "opinions" on the reports they get from the 90% of fishermen that never catch any fish, then its easy to see how people tend to think that the oceans are over fished and we need to close areas and make reserve... Most of you should be able see how this is NOT helpful to fishermen. Environmental extremists DON'T have a clue as to whats really going on with our fisheries. Which is mainly our fault. __________________ ____________________________________________ Last edited by dos ballenas; 05-09-2011 at 02:11 PM.