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david886720 05-25-2016 11:57 PM

Kayak paddle advice
 
Hi all, I'm a newbie to kayak fishing and have occasionally lurked here. Never been on one yet but just purchased an Ocean Kayak Prowler 13 totally bare. I have to purchase a paddle so was wondering what everyone's advice might be. I'm looking at the Werner skagit 230 cm as my height is 5'8". Do you think it's worth paying to get the Carbon Fiber fin blades upgrade for the extra 40$? Planning on using the kayak to fish the bay's first and then hopefully venture out through the surf when I get more experience. Thanks in advance for any thoughts or advice and I've enjoyed reading all the reports on here of y'all catching those monster yt's, tuna, and wsb's over the last year!

Dingokevin 05-26-2016 04:29 AM

The Skagit is a great paddle. For 40 more to carbon? Should be much more. The Skagit is plastic blades. I would go to Camano with fiberglass blades.

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Jim Sammons LJKF 05-26-2016 08:48 AM

You will never regret spending the money and getting the best paddle you can. It is your motor.
It will also help to learn to use it properly, not rocket science but there is technique to paddling and good technique makes all the difference in the world.

Orca Winfrey 05-26-2016 10:55 AM

Werners are great paddles. If you can afford it, the fiberglass blades are nice. You do have to take a bit more care with them compared with the plastic though. I'm using a Werner Shuna, which is a high angle paddle, that I got off Craig's for cheap. I love it but I do wonder if a lower angle Camano would have suited me better. Over all, a nice light Paddle does make a difference. The Werner site and visiting OEX will help you decide what's best for your paddling style and budget. I have the same yak you do by the way.

taggermike 05-26-2016 06:44 PM

Get the best paddle you can. Your going to gave it in your hands for hours on end. The lightest one is the way to go. You won't regret it. Mike

TheBoyScout 05-26-2016 08:10 PM

I have a werner I'm will to part with


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david886720 05-26-2016 09:52 PM

Dingokevin, thanks for the advice.

Jim, I think I'll heed your idea and try and get a better paddle.

Orca, I may look at the Camano as you and Dingo both recommend it and it's fiberglass blade. How do you like the Prowler 13 overall?

Mike, thanks for backing up the general consensus on getting a quality paddle. Everyone has made me think more seriously about it.

Boyscout, which Werner? I'll try PM'ing you if I can figure it out here LOL

Orca Winfrey 05-27-2016 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by david886720 (Post 262005)
Dingokevin, thanks for the advice.


Orca, I may look at the Camano as you and Dingo both recommend it and it's fiberglass blade. How do you like the Prowler 13 overall?

Love my Prowler. I've had it in some fairly rough conditions and never felt it was over matched. Of course now that I've said that ....... It has plenty of storage and although it doesn't have the rod pod of the Trident, you can store rods in the front hatch if needed. It's also light enough for me to car top on my own and I'm not a big guy. I don't think it can be beat for the money.

Dave Legacy 05-27-2016 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dingokevin (Post 261889)
The Skagit is a great paddle. For 40 more to carbon? Should be much more. The Skagit is plastic blades. I would go to Camano with fiberglass blades.

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This got me thinking about paddles. I have a Werner Skagit FG and it's a nice paddle, but if I'm really trying to dig in to pass through a boating lane or similar there's some noticeable flex in the blade. I got to wondering about how the Skagit is marketed, so I read through the specs. The key is "fiberglass reinforced nylon, injection molded blades". The Skagit CF is offering up carbon fiber reinforcement, but we're still talking plastic blades for that extra $40. I think it almost makes more sense to go with either the Skagit FG for the value or Camano for a true fiberglass blade construction.

Dingokevin 05-27-2016 09:52 AM

Have a Camano 240 great paddle use it on a kraken 13.5

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david886720 05-31-2016 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Legacy (Post 262029)
This got me thinking about paddles. I have a Werner Skagit FG and it's a nice paddle, but if I'm really trying to dig in to pass through a boating lane or similar there's some noticeable flex in the blade. I got to wondering about how the Skagit is marketed, so I read through the specs. The key is "fiberglass reinforced nylon, injection molded blades". The Skagit CF is offering up carbon fiber reinforcement, but we're still talking plastic blades for that extra $40. I think it almost makes more sense to go with either the Skagit FG for the value or Camano for a true fiberglass blade construction.

Thanks for the input Dave. I decided to go for a Camano after a lot of thought. Nice to hear your thoughts after actual time on the water.

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Originally Posted by Dingokevin (Post 262036)
Have a Camano 240 great paddle use it on a kraken 13.5

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Another vote for the Camano. Thanks Dingokevin

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Originally Posted by Orca Winfrey (Post 262025)
Love my Prowler. I've had it in some fairly rough conditions and never felt it was over matched. Of course now that I've said that ....... It has plenty of storage and although it doesn't have the rod pod of the Trident, you can store rods in the front hatch if needed. It's also light enough for me to car top on my own and I'm not a big guy. I don't think it can be beat for the money.

I feel good about getting this yak after hearing your review. Thanks Orca for your thoughts. Can't wait to get on the water once I get all the necessities!

Harry Hill 05-31-2016 08:58 PM

reading the specs on all these paddles got me to thinking. After years of using fiberglass shovels I've found that time and weather causes to glass handles to deteriorate and you will start getting fiberglass splinters in your hands, if carbon fiber weathers the same way it would be even worse. Who has used the same paddle for a few years and how is it holding up?

MrPatrick 05-31-2016 09:20 PM

My Onno paddle probably 10 years old and I have no issue with the carbon fiber coming apart.


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Harry Hill 05-31-2016 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPatrick (Post 262307)
My Onno paddle probably 10 years old and I have no issue with the carbon fiber coming apart


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thank you, maybe they are using a different resin, I know I just threw away another shovel. I could wear gloves but I don't always have gloves handy. I was just wondering how the carbon fiber shafts are holding up.

King Saba 06-01-2016 12:24 AM

When I used to paddle I was sporting a Malibu Stealth 12. It's stealthy because I went pretty dang slow.

My first paddle was a POS aluminum paddle with Polypropylene blades. It weighed 42oz even though the manufacturer BSes you with a 35.6oz rating. Paddling for 6-7 hours at a time made for a heck of an endurance workout since the winds and current were always blowing me around and the kayak could not carry a cadence to save its life. I then went to a Werner Camano Hooked and my god did it make a world of difference. 27.5oz!!! The significant weight reduction in the paddle allowed me to paddle stronger, longer, and with less overall effort since I wasn't constantly slinging a beating stick around.

I have found that I'm more of a high angle paddler to which this paddle is probably more suited for a low angle paddler, but it works well for both applications. It hits that sweet spot. If I could go back I think I would have gotten a Shuna like Orca did. You get a lot more power with each stroke and in the prowler it's a great combo.

sandico 06-01-2016 04:45 PM

I have had a Werner Shuna for about 13 years. My first paddle and it is great. I have used it on all widths of kayaks in the 230cm length, I'm 5'10", and it has worked. It is your motor, invest in the paddle.

Kerry Peeler
OEX Mission Bay


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