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f'nsabiki 09-25-2013 05:21 PM

thats got to hurt!!!!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48R0nM6izwk

jorluivil 09-25-2013 06:58 PM

Hey!! There's a couple of gang bangers shooting at each other in the street, lets all run outside and check it out.



boat or no boat, if I saw a GWS attacking a seal I would stay away.

Aaron&Julie 09-26-2013 03:13 AM

Just curious when the date was of this occurence. Quite a spectacle.

philr21 09-26-2013 05:00 AM

Wonder if they were in PV?

rhyak 09-26-2013 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philr21 (Post 170932)
Wonder if they were in PV?

Come on man,


LOL JK

Hondatom 09-26-2013 07:16 PM

I am glad I was not in my yak watching that up close.

CKallday71 09-26-2013 07:31 PM

I wish a GWS would have come put the hurt on the bloody sea dog that kept snaking my greenbacks at La Jolla yesterday!

bigbarrels 09-26-2013 09:24 PM

"don't swear, we are going to get this on TV":D kids are throwing down some F-bombs

TJones 09-27-2013 07:08 AM

looks just like the experience in malibu
 
this summer , about the same size shark . 12 -14 ' ?

lowprofile 09-28-2013 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron&Julie (Post 170930)
Just curious when the date was of this occurence. Quite a spectacle.


last week i think. that dog looks so sad. haha. i like how they pull away just as it gains some hope.

never seen the GWS feeding out there but have come across some. i did see a BIG tiger eat a sea turtle and a couple hammers destroy some tarpon.

Fiskadoro 09-28-2013 11:48 AM

That's a big Mako. You don't even have to see the shark, the nature of the attack and the feeding behavior is enough.Whites attack midsection using their mass and huge jaws to give a crushing blow that kills quickly. They also generally hunt close to shore. Makos attack at speed rip the back end off crippling their prey then circle until it bleeds out, I'm local and have fished sharks right there. The area, the type of attack, that shark is obviously a big Mako, no doubt about it.

Fiskadoro 09-28-2013 12:22 PM

Couple vids of the same feeding behavior from across the channel at Catalina..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jdqITF5hBo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcK557ZlkfY

ful-rac 09-28-2013 12:42 PM

CRIII-KY!!!!!!!

lowprofile 09-28-2013 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiskadoro (Post 171188)
That's a big Mako. You don't even have to see the shark, the nature of the attack and the feeding behavior is enough.Whites attack midsection using their mass and huge jaws to give a crushing blow that kills quickly. They also generally hunt close to shore. Makos attack at speed rip the back end off crippling their prey then circle until it bleeds out, I'm local and have fished sharks right there. The area, the type of attack, that shark is obviously a big Mako, no doubt about it.


check out the beginning and 1:40-1:46 . dorsal is almost perfect triangle and has a huge tail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaQlbLLNwT8

Fiskadoro 09-28-2013 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowprofile (Post 171205)
check out the beginning and 1:40-1:46 . dorsal is almost perfect triangle and has a huge tail. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaQlbLLNwT8

Thanks for that. It actually kinda proves the point.

I can't see enough of the Dorsal to make a identification. You have to see them on profile and all the dorsal shots have too much of an angle.

The tail shots are great though:
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/5311/gesp.jpg

Tails are really huge on larger makos.

http://www.riverandreef.com/articlel...atsstripey.jpg

Note the notch at the upper lobe of the Caudal fin (tail). in this 1300 pound Mako (the current record for So. Cal.)

http://images.nationalgeographic.com...32_600x450.jpg

Here's some from smaller Makos:

http://www.elasmodiver.com/Sharkive%..._Shark_331.jpg
http://www.orangebeach.ws/2007/News/...Shark_Tail.jpg

White sharks have a much more pronounced upper lobe.

http://www.bio.davidson.edu/dorcas/a...te-FIN-026.jpg
http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/great-white-shark-1.jpg

http://images.nationalgeographic.com...54_990x742.jpg

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1210/5...9bf64b15_z.jpg
There's a clear difference and the PV shark definitely has the tail of a large local Mako.

I used to live at King Harbor roughly six to eight miles away and chummed sharks right there hundreds of times. That's actually where I first learned how to fish Makos over twenty years ago, doing night chum trips in a small skiff. They are right on top of the outside high spot in the video, and I've fished there. It's the only place I know where you can actually anchor and chum up Makos on a consistent basis. I've seen more Makos right there then I can count and some very big ones. The large ones come through in early June and back through usually in late September or October.

It could be a White but I'd say it's highly unlikely. I've never seen one there, and it's also the wrong time of year. I was pretty sure before but the second video puts it over the top. Known Mako territory, the right time of year for a Mako that size, it's behavior and now the tail are all matches for a large mako. I'd not only say it's a huge mako but judging from the tail it looks like a real monster, possibly even a record breaker.

Jim


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