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zenspearo 09-14-2009 03:17 PM

(MLPA) Bloody Tuesday 7/28--Remember that one?
 
That was the day the fishermen side was outnumbered 10:1 by blue shirts at the last BRTF meeting in Santa Monica. We were outworked, outshouted, outnumbered.:mad:

http://bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=5703

Spearos, kayakfishermen, H&Ls, we all looked like a PATHETIC BUNCH and all the BRTF saw was signs and blue shirts and mass of people that pushed the message "MPAs Work" and pushed for larger and larger closures.

We have the last BRTF meeting coming up on October 20-22 in Long Beach. LAST MEETING. END OF THE ROAD.

Show up and unite behind Paul L., Tommy and MJs and Big Joe and Cowcatcher and the fishing RSGs to save our fishing grounds. Group 2 map is the best for everyone, all things considered.

Because you can bet the other side is planning to bloody us again with the BRTF meeting. We need each and everyone of you for this LAST push.

We gained a little and then they took it back and more at the BRTF meeting when we took our foot off the gas pedal. We were pathetic at the last BRTF meeting, and this is our chance to redeem ourselves.

Start planning to be there.

Or plan to fish Salton Sea next year. LAST BRTF MEETING!!!!

tylerdurden 09-14-2009 03:39 PM

I remember that day well. Me, Greg, Kurt, and Billy were all dreading being the first to stand up and say "I am a fishermen" after hearing 50 people speak ahead of us, all wearing blue shirts, all talking about how MPA's work, and fishermen are the problem.

We cannot let that happen again. Strength in numbers, and having a strong well thought out message will help us get through this. That is why everyone must show up.

dgax65 09-14-2009 04:19 PM

Take a sick day. Take a vacation day. Play hooky. Do whatever you have to do to be there. This is the last chance to voice your opinions.

Grego 09-14-2009 04:21 PM

Yup I remember that day...don't want that to happen again, wasn't very comfortable. But what I do remember well, was the dinner we had and that HOT body waitress and the awesome food!

zenspearo 09-14-2009 05:56 PM

To guard against BRTF doing the sausage making and coming up with an integrated preferred alternative (IPA) map, we ought to focus our message on "I like group 2 map for La Jolla" because reason A, reason B, and reason C, and I don't like group 3 map for La Jolla because reason X, reason Y, and reason Z.

That way, we don't put all our eggs in one basket and can be more focused and pointed in our statements about specific localities.

I have a feeling one BRTF member (guess who?:rolleyes:) will be trying to push for one or more of External C shapes in one or more locations...because BRTF can conjure new closures out of thin air--it's in their perogative.

And you all see how brazen and biased that BRTF member is during the BRTF meeting that bounced External C. I have a feeling that BRTF member is gonna to be twice as brazen and shameless in BRTF deliberations out of the public earshot.:mad:

So work as if our fishing lifestyles depend on this last meeting, because it very well may. Don't count on North/NW La Jolla as "safe." Don't count on any area as "safe."

NOTHING IS SAFE.

Billy V 09-14-2009 08:10 PM

I will be there to do whatever it takes to preserve our sport.

I have spoken to some of our RSG's and their message is as follows:
We need every single member on this website to show up for this meeting. Even if you do not want to speak I need you standing behind us for support.
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This is it Guys and Gals, the Last Chance you will ever get to Preserve Your Fishing Area. You Must Attend this Meeting.

Personally, I Wouldn't Miss it for The World.
-I want the DFG to Hear What I have to say.
-I want the DFG to See How We Have Compromised in the Face of Deceit, and Bad Science.
- In spite of Being Gamed and Manipulated by the Privately Funded Process We Stood Up for Our Rights and Maintained the Moral High Ground.

Please Be there for Us Who Have Fought for You.

esdees 09-14-2009 08:57 PM

I'll be there at least for the public comment day and I'll try to drag some new-to-mlpa guys with me.

kurt 09-15-2009 06:15 PM

Quote:

But what I do remember well, was the dinner we had and that HOT body waitress and the awesome food!
I'm sure we can find some good places in Long Beach. No reason not to have some fun and laughs afterwards, even if the meetings suck.

Corey 09-15-2009 07:25 PM

Joe Johst's is a fun bar, or Taco Surf in Sunset Beach.


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